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Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.



We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.



Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)










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    Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.



    We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.



    Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)










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      Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.



      We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.



      Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)










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      Whenever I get tasked with unloading the dishwasher, I'm always amazed at the amount of water that's still stuck (always in droplets) to our plastic kitchen utensils.



      We have a dishwasher with three racks, but it doesn't seem to matter which rack you use, plastic spatula's in the top cutlery rack, plastic containers or cups in the middle rack or our plastic cutting boards or plates in the bottom rack, all are equally wet when unloading the dishwasher, while the regular cutlery, glasses, metal pans and ceramic plates are all perfectly dry.



      Why do the plastic kitchen utensils never dry properly in the dishwasher? And is there anything that can be done so the plastic does dry in the dishwasher? (besides using a towel or just waiting three days before unloading)







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          According to this article the problem seems mainly to fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.



          During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and helping with cleaning.




          • Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus loosing heat faster leading to less evaporation


          • Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense that other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining and conserving less heat again promoting less evaporation.



          There may also be other factors at work, like surface properties of plastics as roughness may also make water droplets stick more to it's surface.



          Possible Solutions



          I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) drier.



          After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better) so that the least amount of heat is lost, immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.



          Leave it open for a few brief seconds, enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost.



          This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.



          One other thing you may do additionally, which can be more of a hassle, is after opening the dor as described in the above practice, to individually grab any plastic objects and shake them to loosen any droplets on its surface.



          If your ration of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority, so there should be considerably less plastics than other materials.



          Just shake them into a sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the water off, then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most remaining water.






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          • Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
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            I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
            – elliot svensson
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          There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.



          Some options to help in no particular order:




          • Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.

          • Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)

          • Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the lower racks spilling onto the lower dishes.

          • Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.


          As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.






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            In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).



            The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.



            Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.



            Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.






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              According to this article the problem seems mainly to fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.



              During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and helping with cleaning.




              • Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus loosing heat faster leading to less evaporation


              • Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense that other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining and conserving less heat again promoting less evaporation.



              There may also be other factors at work, like surface properties of plastics as roughness may also make water droplets stick more to it's surface.



              Possible Solutions



              I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) drier.



              After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better) so that the least amount of heat is lost, immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.



              Leave it open for a few brief seconds, enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost.



              This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.



              One other thing you may do additionally, which can be more of a hassle, is after opening the dor as described in the above practice, to individually grab any plastic objects and shake them to loosen any droplets on its surface.



              If your ration of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority, so there should be considerably less plastics than other materials.



              Just shake them into a sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the water off, then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most remaining water.






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              • Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
                – user3190797
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                I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
                – elliot svensson
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              According to this article the problem seems mainly to fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.



              During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and helping with cleaning.




              • Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus loosing heat faster leading to less evaporation


              • Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense that other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining and conserving less heat again promoting less evaporation.



              There may also be other factors at work, like surface properties of plastics as roughness may also make water droplets stick more to it's surface.



              Possible Solutions



              I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) drier.



              After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better) so that the least amount of heat is lost, immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.



              Leave it open for a few brief seconds, enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost.



              This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.



              One other thing you may do additionally, which can be more of a hassle, is after opening the dor as described in the above practice, to individually grab any plastic objects and shake them to loosen any droplets on its surface.



              If your ration of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority, so there should be considerably less plastics than other materials.



              Just shake them into a sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the water off, then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most remaining water.






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              • Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
                – user3190797
                1 hour ago






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                I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
                – elliot svensson
                32 mins ago














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              According to this article the problem seems mainly to fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.



              During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and helping with cleaning.




              • Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus loosing heat faster leading to less evaporation


              • Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense that other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining and conserving less heat again promoting less evaporation.



              There may also be other factors at work, like surface properties of plastics as roughness may also make water droplets stick more to it's surface.



              Possible Solutions



              I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) drier.



              After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better) so that the least amount of heat is lost, immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.



              Leave it open for a few brief seconds, enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost.



              This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.



              One other thing you may do additionally, which can be more of a hassle, is after opening the dor as described in the above practice, to individually grab any plastic objects and shake them to loosen any droplets on its surface.



              If your ration of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority, so there should be considerably less plastics than other materials.



              Just shake them into a sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the water off, then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most remaining water.






              share|improve this answer












              According to this article the problem seems mainly to fold (among other factors), conductivity and thermal inertia.



              During washing temperatures get relatively hot (depending on the particular program chosen) to promote sterilization and helping with cleaning.




              • Conductivity: Different utensils are made of different materials which will absorb this heat at different rates. Plastic has relatively low conductivity compared to say a metal pan or stainless steel object, thus loosing heat faster leading to less evaporation


              • Inertia: Plastic objects are generally thinner and lighter, plastic is generally also less dense that other common kitchen materials, leading to retaining and conserving less heat again promoting less evaporation.



              There may also be other factors at work, like surface properties of plastics as roughness may also make water droplets stick more to it's surface.



              Possible Solutions



              I have recently developed a practice that I feel helps getting most items (even plastics) drier.



              After the cycles finishes, (the sooner the better) so that the least amount of heat is lost, immediately turn off the dish washer and open the door.



              Leave it open for a few brief seconds, enough to let most vapor escape, but short enough that the minimum amount of heat is lost.



              This will ensure a lot of the humidity will leave the compartment while remaining warm, promoting quicker evaporation.



              One other thing you may do additionally, which can be more of a hassle, is after opening the dor as described in the above practice, to individually grab any plastic objects and shake them to loosen any droplets on its surface.



              If your ration of plastics to other materials is anything like mine those should be a minority, so there should be considerably less plastics than other materials.



              Just shake them into a sink, or even back into the dishwasher to get most of the water off, then put them back in and close the door again. The remaining heat should take care of most remaining water.







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              • Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
                – user3190797
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                I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
                – elliot svensson
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              • Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
                – user3190797
                1 hour ago






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                I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
                – elliot svensson
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              Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
              – user3190797
              1 hour ago




              Some newer dishwashers pop the door open at the end of the cycle and leave the heater running for a bit. Their R&D, our gain. I'm not really adding anything to this answer other than it's a valid approach that we can take advantage of.
              – user3190797
              1 hour ago




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              I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
              – elliot svensson
              32 mins ago




              I grab the entire rack and give it a shake instead of fussing with shaking individual items. Only works if nothing will break when you do this!
              – elliot svensson
              32 mins ago













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              There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.



              Some options to help in no particular order:




              • Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.

              • Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)

              • Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the lower racks spilling onto the lower dishes.

              • Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.


              As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.






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                There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.



                Some options to help in no particular order:




                • Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.

                • Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)

                • Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the lower racks spilling onto the lower dishes.

                • Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.


                As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.






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                  There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.



                  Some options to help in no particular order:




                  • Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.

                  • Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)

                  • Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the lower racks spilling onto the lower dishes.

                  • Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.


                  As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.






                  share|improve this answer














                  There are several variables that go into this so I may not touch one the one(s) you are facing but I will try.



                  Some options to help in no particular order:




                  • Use a rinse aid. (This would be my first suggestion) Rinse aids are designed to coat dishes and then repel water. It makes drying a snap. The lack of splotching is secondary to me.

                  • Use the heat dry setting on your dishwasher. (If it has it and it works)

                  • Unload the bottom first can help prevent the water on the lower racks spilling onto the lower dishes.

                  • Load dishes carefully. Make sure when loading the dishwasher you aren't placing anything in such a way that it pools water. Also packing things tight so they don't shift too much and then pool water.


                  As to why. I can't answer that very thoroughly but many dishes have an enamel on them that is very smooth and dries quickly. I suspect your plastic dishware aren't as smooth. Especially as time progresses. I know some of my oldest plastics are very rough and don't dry so well. I usually put them on a drying rack after they come out of the dishwasher.







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                      In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).



                      The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.



                      Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.



                      Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.






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                        In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).



                        The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.



                        Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.



                        Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.






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                          In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).



                          The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.



                          Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.



                          Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.






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                          In addition to the lower heat capacity, a main reason, quite counterintuitive, why plastics don't dry well is that they're hydrophobic. That's right, they keep water sticking to them because they're water repellent (but not completely water repellent).



                          The reason for this strange behaviour is that any small amount of water on the surface of plastics immediately contracts to a compact droplet. This minimises contact with the plastic, but also with air, which is the problem: for efficient evaporation, you need a large air-to-liquid surface. You do get this on glass, ceramic and metal, because these are (at least when freshly cleaned) hydrophilic, so the water stretches out to a thin film coating a whole lot of the surface.



                          Not so with plastics. Only with some shaking will the droplets start running down the surface, and may combine with other drops and then drip off. With super-hydrophobic materials you'd be ok again because even tiny drops would immediately pour down, but most plastics are exactly at the sour spot: too hydrophobic for evaporation, but still not hydrophobic enough for a lotus effect.



                          Melamine resins tend to be among the better plastics in this regard, as they're still pretty hydrophilic. Still they tend to dry only incompletely, probably because of the low heat capacity.







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