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Is it true that:



If $b bot im(A)$ then $b bot im(A^T)$ ?



I think vaguely remembering LA class I would say it is not true.
But this seems like this is what is being implied by scribe notes for linear regression



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    What's actually being used here is: if $b perp im(A)$ then $b in ker(A^T)$. Which is true.
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Is it true that:



If $b bot im(A)$ then $b bot im(A^T)$ ?



I think vaguely remembering LA class I would say it is not true.
But this seems like this is what is being implied by scribe notes for linear regression



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    What's actually being used here is: if $b perp im(A)$ then $b in ker(A^T)$. Which is true.
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    – Daniel Schepler
    Dec 7 '18 at 23:01










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    @DanielSchepler thank you kind man
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    – YohanRoth
    Dec 7 '18 at 23:25














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Is it true that:



If $b bot im(A)$ then $b bot im(A^T)$ ?



I think vaguely remembering LA class I would say it is not true.
But this seems like this is what is being implied by scribe notes for linear regression



enter image description here










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Is it true that:



If $b bot im(A)$ then $b bot im(A^T)$ ?



I think vaguely remembering LA class I would say it is not true.
But this seems like this is what is being implied by scribe notes for linear regression



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    $begingroup$
    What's actually being used here is: if $b perp im(A)$ then $b in ker(A^T)$. Which is true.
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    – Daniel Schepler
    Dec 7 '18 at 23:01










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    @DanielSchepler thank you kind man
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    – YohanRoth
    Dec 7 '18 at 23:25














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    $begingroup$
    What's actually being used here is: if $b perp im(A)$ then $b in ker(A^T)$. Which is true.
    $endgroup$
    – Daniel Schepler
    Dec 7 '18 at 23:01










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    @DanielSchepler thank you kind man
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    – YohanRoth
    Dec 7 '18 at 23:25








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What's actually being used here is: if $b perp im(A)$ then $b in ker(A^T)$. Which is true.
$endgroup$
– Daniel Schepler
Dec 7 '18 at 23:01




$begingroup$
What's actually being used here is: if $b perp im(A)$ then $b in ker(A^T)$. Which is true.
$endgroup$
– Daniel Schepler
Dec 7 '18 at 23:01












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@DanielSchepler thank you kind man
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– YohanRoth
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@DanielSchepler thank you kind man
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The answer is no.
Take for example the matrix
$$ A = pmatrix{1 & 2 \ -1 & -2}.$$
The image of $A$ is $Im(A)= text{span} pmatrix{1 \ -1}$



Take $$b = pmatrix{1 \ 1}.$$ Vector $b$ belongs to $Im(A)^{perp}$. However, since $Im(A^{T}) = text{span} pmatrix{1 \ 2}$, $bnotin Im(A^T)^{perp}$.






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    The answer is no.
    Take for example the matrix
    $$ A = pmatrix{1 & 2 \ -1 & -2}.$$
    The image of $A$ is $Im(A)= text{span} pmatrix{1 \ -1}$



    Take $$b = pmatrix{1 \ 1}.$$ Vector $b$ belongs to $Im(A)^{perp}$. However, since $Im(A^{T}) = text{span} pmatrix{1 \ 2}$, $bnotin Im(A^T)^{perp}$.






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      The answer is no.
      Take for example the matrix
      $$ A = pmatrix{1 & 2 \ -1 & -2}.$$
      The image of $A$ is $Im(A)= text{span} pmatrix{1 \ -1}$



      Take $$b = pmatrix{1 \ 1}.$$ Vector $b$ belongs to $Im(A)^{perp}$. However, since $Im(A^{T}) = text{span} pmatrix{1 \ 2}$, $bnotin Im(A^T)^{perp}$.






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        The answer is no.
        Take for example the matrix
        $$ A = pmatrix{1 & 2 \ -1 & -2}.$$
        The image of $A$ is $Im(A)= text{span} pmatrix{1 \ -1}$



        Take $$b = pmatrix{1 \ 1}.$$ Vector $b$ belongs to $Im(A)^{perp}$. However, since $Im(A^{T}) = text{span} pmatrix{1 \ 2}$, $bnotin Im(A^T)^{perp}$.






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        The answer is no.
        Take for example the matrix
        $$ A = pmatrix{1 & 2 \ -1 & -2}.$$
        The image of $A$ is $Im(A)= text{span} pmatrix{1 \ -1}$



        Take $$b = pmatrix{1 \ 1}.$$ Vector $b$ belongs to $Im(A)^{perp}$. However, since $Im(A^{T}) = text{span} pmatrix{1 \ 2}$, $bnotin Im(A^T)^{perp}$.







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