exponents and iota











up vote
-3
down vote

favorite












lets look at the below derivation,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$

squaring both sides,
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 = ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2$
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 - ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2 = 0$
$(x^frac{a}{b} - (x^a)^frac{1}{b})(x^frac{a}{b} + (x^a)^frac{1}{b}) = 0$



hence we got two solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ as ,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $(x)^frac{a}{b} = -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$



if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of squaring we powered by 4 both sides, then the 4 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $ -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



and if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of powering by 4 we powered by 8 both sides, then the 8 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ ,$-((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



as $iota = sqrt(-1) = (-1)^frac{1}{2} = (-1)^frac{1*2}{2*2} = (-1)^frac{2}{4} $



now if we take, $x=-1 , a=2 , b=4$ ,

and solving for $(-1)^frac{2}{4}$ using the above 8 derived solutions,



$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = ((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = 1^frac{1}{4} = 1$
$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = -((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = -(1)^frac{1}{4} = -1$



and on keep placing in the remainng 6 solutions we further get some weired answers.



but $sqrt(-1)$ is actually equal to $iota$ then how it can be equal to $pm1$










share|cite|improve this question






















  • Just out of curiosity, where did you see $iota$ used as the imaginary unit instead of $i?$ I've seen electrical engineers use $j,$ but I don't think I've ever seen $iota.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:57










  • Even when just using real numbers, squaring both sides introduces extraneous solutions. $x=3implies x^2=9,$ but you can't conclude $3=-3.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:59










  • i am not saying that 1=-1 instead i am saying how i=1 and i=-1 because i =sqrt(-1) which is not equal to 1 and -1 at all
    – Gaurav Sharma
    Nov 16 at 15:16










  • I'm talking about squaring both sides.
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 15:17






  • 1




    Similar question has been asked trillion times. It wrongly assumes that $a^{bc}=(a^b)^c$ in the complex, which is not true.
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 16 at 15:19

















up vote
-3
down vote

favorite












lets look at the below derivation,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$

squaring both sides,
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 = ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2$
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 - ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2 = 0$
$(x^frac{a}{b} - (x^a)^frac{1}{b})(x^frac{a}{b} + (x^a)^frac{1}{b}) = 0$



hence we got two solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ as ,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $(x)^frac{a}{b} = -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$



if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of squaring we powered by 4 both sides, then the 4 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $ -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



and if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of powering by 4 we powered by 8 both sides, then the 8 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ ,$-((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



as $iota = sqrt(-1) = (-1)^frac{1}{2} = (-1)^frac{1*2}{2*2} = (-1)^frac{2}{4} $



now if we take, $x=-1 , a=2 , b=4$ ,

and solving for $(-1)^frac{2}{4}$ using the above 8 derived solutions,



$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = ((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = 1^frac{1}{4} = 1$
$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = -((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = -(1)^frac{1}{4} = -1$



and on keep placing in the remainng 6 solutions we further get some weired answers.



but $sqrt(-1)$ is actually equal to $iota$ then how it can be equal to $pm1$










share|cite|improve this question






















  • Just out of curiosity, where did you see $iota$ used as the imaginary unit instead of $i?$ I've seen electrical engineers use $j,$ but I don't think I've ever seen $iota.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:57










  • Even when just using real numbers, squaring both sides introduces extraneous solutions. $x=3implies x^2=9,$ but you can't conclude $3=-3.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:59










  • i am not saying that 1=-1 instead i am saying how i=1 and i=-1 because i =sqrt(-1) which is not equal to 1 and -1 at all
    – Gaurav Sharma
    Nov 16 at 15:16










  • I'm talking about squaring both sides.
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 15:17






  • 1




    Similar question has been asked trillion times. It wrongly assumes that $a^{bc}=(a^b)^c$ in the complex, which is not true.
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 16 at 15:19















up vote
-3
down vote

favorite









up vote
-3
down vote

favorite











lets look at the below derivation,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$

squaring both sides,
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 = ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2$
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 - ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2 = 0$
$(x^frac{a}{b} - (x^a)^frac{1}{b})(x^frac{a}{b} + (x^a)^frac{1}{b}) = 0$



hence we got two solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ as ,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $(x)^frac{a}{b} = -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$



if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of squaring we powered by 4 both sides, then the 4 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $ -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



and if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of powering by 4 we powered by 8 both sides, then the 8 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ ,$-((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



as $iota = sqrt(-1) = (-1)^frac{1}{2} = (-1)^frac{1*2}{2*2} = (-1)^frac{2}{4} $



now if we take, $x=-1 , a=2 , b=4$ ,

and solving for $(-1)^frac{2}{4}$ using the above 8 derived solutions,



$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = ((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = 1^frac{1}{4} = 1$
$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = -((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = -(1)^frac{1}{4} = -1$



and on keep placing in the remainng 6 solutions we further get some weired answers.



but $sqrt(-1)$ is actually equal to $iota$ then how it can be equal to $pm1$










share|cite|improve this question













lets look at the below derivation,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$

squaring both sides,
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 = ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2$
$(x^frac{a}{b})^2 - ((x^a)^frac{1}{b})^2 = 0$
$(x^frac{a}{b} - (x^a)^frac{1}{b})(x^frac{a}{b} + (x^a)^frac{1}{b}) = 0$



hence we got two solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ as ,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $(x)^frac{a}{b} = -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$



if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of squaring we powered by 4 both sides, then the 4 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $ -((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



and if in the equation $(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ instead of powering by 4 we powered by 8 both sides, then the 8 solutions of $(x)^frac{a}{b}$ are,



$(x)^frac{a}{b} = (x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ ,$-((x^a)^frac{1}{b})$ , $iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $-sqrtiota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ , $sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$ and $-sqrt-iota(x^a)^frac{1}{b}$



as $iota = sqrt(-1) = (-1)^frac{1}{2} = (-1)^frac{1*2}{2*2} = (-1)^frac{2}{4} $



now if we take, $x=-1 , a=2 , b=4$ ,

and solving for $(-1)^frac{2}{4}$ using the above 8 derived solutions,



$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = ((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = 1^frac{1}{4} = 1$
$(-1)^frac{2}{4} = -((-1)^2)^frac{1}{4} = -(1)^frac{1}{4} = -1$



and on keep placing in the remainng 6 solutions we further get some weired answers.



but $sqrt(-1)$ is actually equal to $iota$ then how it can be equal to $pm1$







complex-numbers exponentiation






share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Nov 16 at 14:49









Gaurav Sharma

11




11












  • Just out of curiosity, where did you see $iota$ used as the imaginary unit instead of $i?$ I've seen electrical engineers use $j,$ but I don't think I've ever seen $iota.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:57










  • Even when just using real numbers, squaring both sides introduces extraneous solutions. $x=3implies x^2=9,$ but you can't conclude $3=-3.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:59










  • i am not saying that 1=-1 instead i am saying how i=1 and i=-1 because i =sqrt(-1) which is not equal to 1 and -1 at all
    – Gaurav Sharma
    Nov 16 at 15:16










  • I'm talking about squaring both sides.
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 15:17






  • 1




    Similar question has been asked trillion times. It wrongly assumes that $a^{bc}=(a^b)^c$ in the complex, which is not true.
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 16 at 15:19




















  • Just out of curiosity, where did you see $iota$ used as the imaginary unit instead of $i?$ I've seen electrical engineers use $j,$ but I don't think I've ever seen $iota.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:57










  • Even when just using real numbers, squaring both sides introduces extraneous solutions. $x=3implies x^2=9,$ but you can't conclude $3=-3.$
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 14:59










  • i am not saying that 1=-1 instead i am saying how i=1 and i=-1 because i =sqrt(-1) which is not equal to 1 and -1 at all
    – Gaurav Sharma
    Nov 16 at 15:16










  • I'm talking about squaring both sides.
    – saulspatz
    Nov 16 at 15:17






  • 1




    Similar question has been asked trillion times. It wrongly assumes that $a^{bc}=(a^b)^c$ in the complex, which is not true.
    – Yves Daoust
    Nov 16 at 15:19


















Just out of curiosity, where did you see $iota$ used as the imaginary unit instead of $i?$ I've seen electrical engineers use $j,$ but I don't think I've ever seen $iota.$
– saulspatz
Nov 16 at 14:57




Just out of curiosity, where did you see $iota$ used as the imaginary unit instead of $i?$ I've seen electrical engineers use $j,$ but I don't think I've ever seen $iota.$
– saulspatz
Nov 16 at 14:57












Even when just using real numbers, squaring both sides introduces extraneous solutions. $x=3implies x^2=9,$ but you can't conclude $3=-3.$
– saulspatz
Nov 16 at 14:59




Even when just using real numbers, squaring both sides introduces extraneous solutions. $x=3implies x^2=9,$ but you can't conclude $3=-3.$
– saulspatz
Nov 16 at 14:59












i am not saying that 1=-1 instead i am saying how i=1 and i=-1 because i =sqrt(-1) which is not equal to 1 and -1 at all
– Gaurav Sharma
Nov 16 at 15:16




i am not saying that 1=-1 instead i am saying how i=1 and i=-1 because i =sqrt(-1) which is not equal to 1 and -1 at all
– Gaurav Sharma
Nov 16 at 15:16












I'm talking about squaring both sides.
– saulspatz
Nov 16 at 15:17




I'm talking about squaring both sides.
– saulspatz
Nov 16 at 15:17




1




1




Similar question has been asked trillion times. It wrongly assumes that $a^{bc}=(a^b)^c$ in the complex, which is not true.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 16 at 15:19






Similar question has been asked trillion times. It wrongly assumes that $a^{bc}=(a^b)^c$ in the complex, which is not true.
– Yves Daoust
Nov 16 at 15:19

















active

oldest

votes











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3001229%2fexponents-and-iota%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown






























active

oldest

votes













active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes
















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3001229%2fexponents-and-iota%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Plaza Victoria

Brian Clough

Cáceres