Summoning high CR monsters with Planar Ally











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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?

Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?

Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?










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  • Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?

Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?

Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?










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  • Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?

Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?

Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?










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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?

Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?

Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?







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  • Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
    – SeraphsWrath
    Nov 20 at 15:25


















  • Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
    – SeraphsWrath
    Nov 20 at 15:25
















Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
Nov 20 at 15:25




Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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Nov 20 at 15:25










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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






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    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 11:29












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    Nov 20 at 15:12










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 15:18






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    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






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    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 11:29












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    Nov 20 at 15:12










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 15:18






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    Nov 20 at 19:01















up vote
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






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  • 1




    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 11:29












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    Nov 20 at 15:12










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 15:18






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    Nov 20 at 19:01













up vote
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up vote
19
down vote









There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.






share|improve this answer














There is no limit, yes, and yes.



But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).




There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...




is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.




...although it is sent to primarily aid you:




That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you




Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.







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  • 1




    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 11:29












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    Nov 20 at 15:12










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 15:18






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    Nov 20 at 19:01














  • 1




    The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 11:29












  • @doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
    – J.E
    Nov 20 at 15:12










  • Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
    – doppelgreener
    Nov 20 at 15:18






  • 3




    +1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
    – Reginald Blue
    Nov 20 at 19:01








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1




The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener
Nov 20 at 11:29






The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener
Nov 20 at 11:29














@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 at 15:12




@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 at 15:12












Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener
Nov 20 at 15:18




Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener
Nov 20 at 15:18




3




3




+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 at 19:01




+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 at 19:01


















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