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Let $X$ be a compact Hausdorff space with $C(X)$ the ring of continuous functions on $X$ mapped to $Bbb R$. If $A$ is closed subset of $X$, define



$$I_{A}={f in C(X)| f|_{A} = 0 }.$$



If $Isubseteq C(X)$ is an ideal, define



$$Z(I):={x in X|f(x)=0 text{for all } f in I }.$$




Given a proper, non-zero ideal $Isubseteq C(X)$ that is closed in $C(X)$ (where we give $C(X)$ the sup-norm topology), is it true that $I_{Z(I)} = I$?




Work



If $f in I$, then $f$ is zero for any $x in Z(I)$, but the other direction I am not sure. If it were true, it would mean that for any function $g$ which is zero on $Z(I)$ would have to also be part of the ideal $I$. Any tips appreciated.










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  • I see a downvote, if something is not clear I can expand. Also I would like to give more of an attempt but I am genuinely stumped.
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  • I voted up. Fairly clear question (though what explicitly is $I$?) and some effort was demonstrated.
    – Santana Afton
    Nov 24 at 4:20










  • @SantanaAfton added.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:21










  • @SantanaAfton answered, sorry for forgetting the details lol.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:29










  • Maybe you need to add $f:Xrightarrow mathbb{C}$, to include that $f$ is a complex-valued continuous function.
    – i707107
    Nov 24 at 4:31
















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Problem



Let $X$ be a compact Hausdorff space with $C(X)$ the ring of continuous functions on $X$ mapped to $Bbb R$. If $A$ is closed subset of $X$, define



$$I_{A}={f in C(X)| f|_{A} = 0 }.$$



If $Isubseteq C(X)$ is an ideal, define



$$Z(I):={x in X|f(x)=0 text{for all } f in I }.$$




Given a proper, non-zero ideal $Isubseteq C(X)$ that is closed in $C(X)$ (where we give $C(X)$ the sup-norm topology), is it true that $I_{Z(I)} = I$?




Work



If $f in I$, then $f$ is zero for any $x in Z(I)$, but the other direction I am not sure. If it were true, it would mean that for any function $g$ which is zero on $Z(I)$ would have to also be part of the ideal $I$. Any tips appreciated.










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  • I see a downvote, if something is not clear I can expand. Also I would like to give more of an attempt but I am genuinely stumped.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:12










  • I voted up. Fairly clear question (though what explicitly is $I$?) and some effort was demonstrated.
    – Santana Afton
    Nov 24 at 4:20










  • @SantanaAfton added.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:21










  • @SantanaAfton answered, sorry for forgetting the details lol.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:29










  • Maybe you need to add $f:Xrightarrow mathbb{C}$, to include that $f$ is a complex-valued continuous function.
    – i707107
    Nov 24 at 4:31














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Problem



Let $X$ be a compact Hausdorff space with $C(X)$ the ring of continuous functions on $X$ mapped to $Bbb R$. If $A$ is closed subset of $X$, define



$$I_{A}={f in C(X)| f|_{A} = 0 }.$$



If $Isubseteq C(X)$ is an ideal, define



$$Z(I):={x in X|f(x)=0 text{for all } f in I }.$$




Given a proper, non-zero ideal $Isubseteq C(X)$ that is closed in $C(X)$ (where we give $C(X)$ the sup-norm topology), is it true that $I_{Z(I)} = I$?




Work



If $f in I$, then $f$ is zero for any $x in Z(I)$, but the other direction I am not sure. If it were true, it would mean that for any function $g$ which is zero on $Z(I)$ would have to also be part of the ideal $I$. Any tips appreciated.










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Problem



Let $X$ be a compact Hausdorff space with $C(X)$ the ring of continuous functions on $X$ mapped to $Bbb R$. If $A$ is closed subset of $X$, define



$$I_{A}={f in C(X)| f|_{A} = 0 }.$$



If $Isubseteq C(X)$ is an ideal, define



$$Z(I):={x in X|f(x)=0 text{for all } f in I }.$$




Given a proper, non-zero ideal $Isubseteq C(X)$ that is closed in $C(X)$ (where we give $C(X)$ the sup-norm topology), is it true that $I_{Z(I)} = I$?




Work



If $f in I$, then $f$ is zero for any $x in Z(I)$, but the other direction I am not sure. If it were true, it would mean that for any function $g$ which is zero on $Z(I)$ would have to also be part of the ideal $I$. Any tips appreciated.







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  • I see a downvote, if something is not clear I can expand. Also I would like to give more of an attempt but I am genuinely stumped.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:12










  • I voted up. Fairly clear question (though what explicitly is $I$?) and some effort was demonstrated.
    – Santana Afton
    Nov 24 at 4:20










  • @SantanaAfton added.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:21










  • @SantanaAfton answered, sorry for forgetting the details lol.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:29










  • Maybe you need to add $f:Xrightarrow mathbb{C}$, to include that $f$ is a complex-valued continuous function.
    – i707107
    Nov 24 at 4:31


















  • I see a downvote, if something is not clear I can expand. Also I would like to give more of an attempt but I am genuinely stumped.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:12










  • I voted up. Fairly clear question (though what explicitly is $I$?) and some effort was demonstrated.
    – Santana Afton
    Nov 24 at 4:20










  • @SantanaAfton added.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:21










  • @SantanaAfton answered, sorry for forgetting the details lol.
    – IntegrateThis
    Nov 24 at 4:29










  • Maybe you need to add $f:Xrightarrow mathbb{C}$, to include that $f$ is a complex-valued continuous function.
    – i707107
    Nov 24 at 4:31
















I see a downvote, if something is not clear I can expand. Also I would like to give more of an attempt but I am genuinely stumped.
– IntegrateThis
Nov 24 at 4:12




I see a downvote, if something is not clear I can expand. Also I would like to give more of an attempt but I am genuinely stumped.
– IntegrateThis
Nov 24 at 4:12












I voted up. Fairly clear question (though what explicitly is $I$?) and some effort was demonstrated.
– Santana Afton
Nov 24 at 4:20




I voted up. Fairly clear question (though what explicitly is $I$?) and some effort was demonstrated.
– Santana Afton
Nov 24 at 4:20












@SantanaAfton added.
– IntegrateThis
Nov 24 at 4:21




@SantanaAfton added.
– IntegrateThis
Nov 24 at 4:21












@SantanaAfton answered, sorry for forgetting the details lol.
– IntegrateThis
Nov 24 at 4:29




@SantanaAfton answered, sorry for forgetting the details lol.
– IntegrateThis
Nov 24 at 4:29












Maybe you need to add $f:Xrightarrow mathbb{C}$, to include that $f$ is a complex-valued continuous function.
– i707107
Nov 24 at 4:31




Maybe you need to add $f:Xrightarrow mathbb{C}$, to include that $f$ is a complex-valued continuous function.
– i707107
Nov 24 at 4:31










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This is true and follows from a characterization of closed ideals of $C(X)$: every closed ideal is of the form $I_A$ for some closed $A$.



So $I$ in your problem = $I_A$ for some closed $A$. And $Z(I_A) = A$, which finishes it.






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    This is true and follows from a characterization of closed ideals of $C(X)$: every closed ideal is of the form $I_A$ for some closed $A$.



    So $I$ in your problem = $I_A$ for some closed $A$. And $Z(I_A) = A$, which finishes it.






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      This is true and follows from a characterization of closed ideals of $C(X)$: every closed ideal is of the form $I_A$ for some closed $A$.



      So $I$ in your problem = $I_A$ for some closed $A$. And $Z(I_A) = A$, which finishes it.






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        This is true and follows from a characterization of closed ideals of $C(X)$: every closed ideal is of the form $I_A$ for some closed $A$.



        So $I$ in your problem = $I_A$ for some closed $A$. And $Z(I_A) = A$, which finishes it.






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        This is true and follows from a characterization of closed ideals of $C(X)$: every closed ideal is of the form $I_A$ for some closed $A$.



        So $I$ in your problem = $I_A$ for some closed $A$. And $Z(I_A) = A$, which finishes it.







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