Determining whether or not a set contains an element, and proving set equalities.












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I have two problems that are giving me a bit of a difficulty. I've already completed one of them, but I have a feeling I'm doing something wrong, and would greatly appreciate feedback. For the other one, I'm lost entirely.



For each of the following sets, determine whether 4 is an element of that set.

a) {x ∈ R | x is an integer greater than 4}

b) {x ∈ R | x is the square of an integer|

c) {4,{4}}

d) {{4},{{4}}}

e) {{4},{4,{4}}}

f) {{{4}}}


I answered as the following:



a. As x is greater than 4, 4 is not in the set.



b. If the integer is 2, the square of 2 is 4, meaning that 4 is an element of the set. (Truthfully, I'm on the fence about this. How do I know that the square is 2?)



c. The set contains the value 4, and the subset {4}. 4 is in the set.



d. The set contains the subsets {4} and {{4}}. 4 is not an element in the set. (I assume that {4} isn't the same as 4)



e. The set contains the subset {4} and {4,{4}}. 4 is an element of the subset, but not the set.



f. The set consists wholly of the subset {{{4}}}. 4 is not an element.



The second problem I'm lost on completely is



Prove or disprove:
A - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)


I know that A is equivalent to (A u A), so I can go from



A- (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)
(A u A) - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)



But from there, I'm lost. I don't even know how A-B or A-C would translate into anything else, so any assistance would be greatly, greatly appreciated.










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    I have two problems that are giving me a bit of a difficulty. I've already completed one of them, but I have a feeling I'm doing something wrong, and would greatly appreciate feedback. For the other one, I'm lost entirely.



    For each of the following sets, determine whether 4 is an element of that set.

    a) {x ∈ R | x is an integer greater than 4}

    b) {x ∈ R | x is the square of an integer|

    c) {4,{4}}

    d) {{4},{{4}}}

    e) {{4},{4,{4}}}

    f) {{{4}}}


    I answered as the following:



    a. As x is greater than 4, 4 is not in the set.



    b. If the integer is 2, the square of 2 is 4, meaning that 4 is an element of the set. (Truthfully, I'm on the fence about this. How do I know that the square is 2?)



    c. The set contains the value 4, and the subset {4}. 4 is in the set.



    d. The set contains the subsets {4} and {{4}}. 4 is not an element in the set. (I assume that {4} isn't the same as 4)



    e. The set contains the subset {4} and {4,{4}}. 4 is an element of the subset, but not the set.



    f. The set consists wholly of the subset {{{4}}}. 4 is not an element.



    The second problem I'm lost on completely is



    Prove or disprove:
    A - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)


    I know that A is equivalent to (A u A), so I can go from



    A- (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)
    (A u A) - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)



    But from there, I'm lost. I don't even know how A-B or A-C would translate into anything else, so any assistance would be greatly, greatly appreciated.










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      I have two problems that are giving me a bit of a difficulty. I've already completed one of them, but I have a feeling I'm doing something wrong, and would greatly appreciate feedback. For the other one, I'm lost entirely.



      For each of the following sets, determine whether 4 is an element of that set.

      a) {x ∈ R | x is an integer greater than 4}

      b) {x ∈ R | x is the square of an integer|

      c) {4,{4}}

      d) {{4},{{4}}}

      e) {{4},{4,{4}}}

      f) {{{4}}}


      I answered as the following:



      a. As x is greater than 4, 4 is not in the set.



      b. If the integer is 2, the square of 2 is 4, meaning that 4 is an element of the set. (Truthfully, I'm on the fence about this. How do I know that the square is 2?)



      c. The set contains the value 4, and the subset {4}. 4 is in the set.



      d. The set contains the subsets {4} and {{4}}. 4 is not an element in the set. (I assume that {4} isn't the same as 4)



      e. The set contains the subset {4} and {4,{4}}. 4 is an element of the subset, but not the set.



      f. The set consists wholly of the subset {{{4}}}. 4 is not an element.



      The second problem I'm lost on completely is



      Prove or disprove:
      A - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)


      I know that A is equivalent to (A u A), so I can go from



      A- (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)
      (A u A) - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)



      But from there, I'm lost. I don't even know how A-B or A-C would translate into anything else, so any assistance would be greatly, greatly appreciated.










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      I have two problems that are giving me a bit of a difficulty. I've already completed one of them, but I have a feeling I'm doing something wrong, and would greatly appreciate feedback. For the other one, I'm lost entirely.



      For each of the following sets, determine whether 4 is an element of that set.

      a) {x ∈ R | x is an integer greater than 4}

      b) {x ∈ R | x is the square of an integer|

      c) {4,{4}}

      d) {{4},{{4}}}

      e) {{4},{4,{4}}}

      f) {{{4}}}


      I answered as the following:



      a. As x is greater than 4, 4 is not in the set.



      b. If the integer is 2, the square of 2 is 4, meaning that 4 is an element of the set. (Truthfully, I'm on the fence about this. How do I know that the square is 2?)



      c. The set contains the value 4, and the subset {4}. 4 is in the set.



      d. The set contains the subsets {4} and {{4}}. 4 is not an element in the set. (I assume that {4} isn't the same as 4)



      e. The set contains the subset {4} and {4,{4}}. 4 is an element of the subset, but not the set.



      f. The set consists wholly of the subset {{{4}}}. 4 is not an element.



      The second problem I'm lost on completely is



      Prove or disprove:
      A - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)


      I know that A is equivalent to (A u A), so I can go from



      A- (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)
      (A u A) - (B n C) = (A-B) u (A-C)



      But from there, I'm lost. I don't even know how A-B or A-C would translate into anything else, so any assistance would be greatly, greatly appreciated.







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          Your logic in 1 is fine. For part 2, to prove two sets are equal, show they are subsets of each other.

          So, assume $xin A-(Bcap C)$ Xo, $xin A$ and $xnotin (Bcap C)$ Thus, we have $xnotin B$ or $xnotin C$ along with $xin A$. thus, we have $xin A-B$ or $xin A-C$
          Hence, $xin (A-B)cup(A-C)$



          To argue the reverse, just start with an element of the right hand side and follow the same logic backward to the left hand side






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            For your set equality,
            draw a Venn diagram with
            circles for A, B, and C.
            You can then visually see
            what the two sides are
            and why they are equal.






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              Your logic in 1 is fine. For part 2, to prove two sets are equal, show they are subsets of each other.

              So, assume $xin A-(Bcap C)$ Xo, $xin A$ and $xnotin (Bcap C)$ Thus, we have $xnotin B$ or $xnotin C$ along with $xin A$. thus, we have $xin A-B$ or $xin A-C$
              Hence, $xin (A-B)cup(A-C)$



              To argue the reverse, just start with an element of the right hand side and follow the same logic backward to the left hand side






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                Your logic in 1 is fine. For part 2, to prove two sets are equal, show they are subsets of each other.

                So, assume $xin A-(Bcap C)$ Xo, $xin A$ and $xnotin (Bcap C)$ Thus, we have $xnotin B$ or $xnotin C$ along with $xin A$. thus, we have $xin A-B$ or $xin A-C$
                Hence, $xin (A-B)cup(A-C)$



                To argue the reverse, just start with an element of the right hand side and follow the same logic backward to the left hand side






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                  Your logic in 1 is fine. For part 2, to prove two sets are equal, show they are subsets of each other.

                  So, assume $xin A-(Bcap C)$ Xo, $xin A$ and $xnotin (Bcap C)$ Thus, we have $xnotin B$ or $xnotin C$ along with $xin A$. thus, we have $xin A-B$ or $xin A-C$
                  Hence, $xin (A-B)cup(A-C)$



                  To argue the reverse, just start with an element of the right hand side and follow the same logic backward to the left hand side






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                  Your logic in 1 is fine. For part 2, to prove two sets are equal, show they are subsets of each other.

                  So, assume $xin A-(Bcap C)$ Xo, $xin A$ and $xnotin (Bcap C)$ Thus, we have $xnotin B$ or $xnotin C$ along with $xin A$. thus, we have $xin A-B$ or $xin A-C$
                  Hence, $xin (A-B)cup(A-C)$



                  To argue the reverse, just start with an element of the right hand side and follow the same logic backward to the left hand side







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                      For your set equality,
                      draw a Venn diagram with
                      circles for A, B, and C.
                      You can then visually see
                      what the two sides are
                      and why they are equal.






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                        For your set equality,
                        draw a Venn diagram with
                        circles for A, B, and C.
                        You can then visually see
                        what the two sides are
                        and why they are equal.






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                          For your set equality,
                          draw a Venn diagram with
                          circles for A, B, and C.
                          You can then visually see
                          what the two sides are
                          and why they are equal.






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                          For your set equality,
                          draw a Venn diagram with
                          circles for A, B, and C.
                          You can then visually see
                          what the two sides are
                          and why they are equal.







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