What is “the set of all polynomials in $pi$”?
From Ian Stewart's Galois Theory (2015, 4e, p. 20):
What does, for example, "the set of all polynomials in $pi$" mean?
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From Ian Stewart's Galois Theory (2015, 4e, p. 20):
What does, for example, "the set of all polynomials in $pi$" mean?
polynomials terminology
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For example, $pi^2-2pi+1$ or $7pi^5-3pi^2+2pi$
– David Peterson
Nov 25 at 3:29
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From Ian Stewart's Galois Theory (2015, 4e, p. 20):
What does, for example, "the set of all polynomials in $pi$" mean?
polynomials terminology
From Ian Stewart's Galois Theory (2015, 4e, p. 20):
What does, for example, "the set of all polynomials in $pi$" mean?
polynomials terminology
polynomials terminology
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For example, $pi^2-2pi+1$ or $7pi^5-3pi^2+2pi$
– David Peterson
Nov 25 at 3:29
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For example, $pi^2-2pi+1$ or $7pi^5-3pi^2+2pi$
– David Peterson
Nov 25 at 3:29
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For example, $pi^2-2pi+1$ or $7pi^5-3pi^2+2pi$
– David Peterson
Nov 25 at 3:29
For example, $pi^2-2pi+1$ or $7pi^5-3pi^2+2pi$
– David Peterson
Nov 25 at 3:29
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The terminology is hinted at in $(4)$.
A polynomial $p$ in $x$, with, say, integer coefficients, is defined by $$p(x)=sum_{i=0}^{n}a_ix^i,$$ where $a_iinBbb Z$ for all $i$, and for some $ninBbb Ncup{0}$.
So let $x=pi$ . . .
Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
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The set of all polynomials in $pi$ with rational coefficients is the set of real numbers of the form $p(pi)$, where $p(x)$ is a polynomial with rational coefficients; that is, it is the set ${ p(pi) mid p(x) in mathbb{Q}[x] }$.
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A "polynomial in $pi$ with integer coefficient" is a slightly sloppy shorthand for "a number that is the value of some polynomial with integer coefficients, evaluated at $x=pi$".
In other words, the set of all such numbers is the range of the evaluation morphism $mathbb Z[X]tomathbb C$ that maps $X$ to $pi$.
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A polynomial in $pi$ is in $4)$ an expression of the form $q_npi^n+q_{n-1}pi^{n-1}+dots +q_1pi+q_0$, where each $q_iinmathbb Q$.
Or, as in $3)$, you could replace the $q_iinmathbb Q$ with $a_iinmathbb Z$, and have polynomials in $pi$ with integer coefficients.
In these two cases we get a subring, but not a subfield, of $mathbb C$.
On the other hand, we get a subfield when we consider all rational expressions in $pi$; that is, quotients of polynomials in $pi$ over $mathbb Q$.
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The terminology is hinted at in $(4)$.
A polynomial $p$ in $x$, with, say, integer coefficients, is defined by $$p(x)=sum_{i=0}^{n}a_ix^i,$$ where $a_iinBbb Z$ for all $i$, and for some $ninBbb Ncup{0}$.
So let $x=pi$ . . .
Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
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The terminology is hinted at in $(4)$.
A polynomial $p$ in $x$, with, say, integer coefficients, is defined by $$p(x)=sum_{i=0}^{n}a_ix^i,$$ where $a_iinBbb Z$ for all $i$, and for some $ninBbb Ncup{0}$.
So let $x=pi$ . . .
Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
add a comment |
The terminology is hinted at in $(4)$.
A polynomial $p$ in $x$, with, say, integer coefficients, is defined by $$p(x)=sum_{i=0}^{n}a_ix^i,$$ where $a_iinBbb Z$ for all $i$, and for some $ninBbb Ncup{0}$.
So let $x=pi$ . . .
The terminology is hinted at in $(4)$.
A polynomial $p$ in $x$, with, say, integer coefficients, is defined by $$p(x)=sum_{i=0}^{n}a_ix^i,$$ where $a_iinBbb Z$ for all $i$, and for some $ninBbb Ncup{0}$.
So let $x=pi$ . . .
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answered Nov 25 at 3:33
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Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
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Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
Thank you for correcting my typo, @LordSharktheUnknown.
– Shaun
Nov 25 at 6:31
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The set of all polynomials in $pi$ with rational coefficients is the set of real numbers of the form $p(pi)$, where $p(x)$ is a polynomial with rational coefficients; that is, it is the set ${ p(pi) mid p(x) in mathbb{Q}[x] }$.
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The set of all polynomials in $pi$ with rational coefficients is the set of real numbers of the form $p(pi)$, where $p(x)$ is a polynomial with rational coefficients; that is, it is the set ${ p(pi) mid p(x) in mathbb{Q}[x] }$.
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The set of all polynomials in $pi$ with rational coefficients is the set of real numbers of the form $p(pi)$, where $p(x)$ is a polynomial with rational coefficients; that is, it is the set ${ p(pi) mid p(x) in mathbb{Q}[x] }$.
The set of all polynomials in $pi$ with rational coefficients is the set of real numbers of the form $p(pi)$, where $p(x)$ is a polynomial with rational coefficients; that is, it is the set ${ p(pi) mid p(x) in mathbb{Q}[x] }$.
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A "polynomial in $pi$ with integer coefficient" is a slightly sloppy shorthand for "a number that is the value of some polynomial with integer coefficients, evaluated at $x=pi$".
In other words, the set of all such numbers is the range of the evaluation morphism $mathbb Z[X]tomathbb C$ that maps $X$ to $pi$.
add a comment |
A "polynomial in $pi$ with integer coefficient" is a slightly sloppy shorthand for "a number that is the value of some polynomial with integer coefficients, evaluated at $x=pi$".
In other words, the set of all such numbers is the range of the evaluation morphism $mathbb Z[X]tomathbb C$ that maps $X$ to $pi$.
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A "polynomial in $pi$ with integer coefficient" is a slightly sloppy shorthand for "a number that is the value of some polynomial with integer coefficients, evaluated at $x=pi$".
In other words, the set of all such numbers is the range of the evaluation morphism $mathbb Z[X]tomathbb C$ that maps $X$ to $pi$.
A "polynomial in $pi$ with integer coefficient" is a slightly sloppy shorthand for "a number that is the value of some polynomial with integer coefficients, evaluated at $x=pi$".
In other words, the set of all such numbers is the range of the evaluation morphism $mathbb Z[X]tomathbb C$ that maps $X$ to $pi$.
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A polynomial in $pi$ is in $4)$ an expression of the form $q_npi^n+q_{n-1}pi^{n-1}+dots +q_1pi+q_0$, where each $q_iinmathbb Q$.
Or, as in $3)$, you could replace the $q_iinmathbb Q$ with $a_iinmathbb Z$, and have polynomials in $pi$ with integer coefficients.
In these two cases we get a subring, but not a subfield, of $mathbb C$.
On the other hand, we get a subfield when we consider all rational expressions in $pi$; that is, quotients of polynomials in $pi$ over $mathbb Q$.
add a comment |
A polynomial in $pi$ is in $4)$ an expression of the form $q_npi^n+q_{n-1}pi^{n-1}+dots +q_1pi+q_0$, where each $q_iinmathbb Q$.
Or, as in $3)$, you could replace the $q_iinmathbb Q$ with $a_iinmathbb Z$, and have polynomials in $pi$ with integer coefficients.
In these two cases we get a subring, but not a subfield, of $mathbb C$.
On the other hand, we get a subfield when we consider all rational expressions in $pi$; that is, quotients of polynomials in $pi$ over $mathbb Q$.
add a comment |
A polynomial in $pi$ is in $4)$ an expression of the form $q_npi^n+q_{n-1}pi^{n-1}+dots +q_1pi+q_0$, where each $q_iinmathbb Q$.
Or, as in $3)$, you could replace the $q_iinmathbb Q$ with $a_iinmathbb Z$, and have polynomials in $pi$ with integer coefficients.
In these two cases we get a subring, but not a subfield, of $mathbb C$.
On the other hand, we get a subfield when we consider all rational expressions in $pi$; that is, quotients of polynomials in $pi$ over $mathbb Q$.
A polynomial in $pi$ is in $4)$ an expression of the form $q_npi^n+q_{n-1}pi^{n-1}+dots +q_1pi+q_0$, where each $q_iinmathbb Q$.
Or, as in $3)$, you could replace the $q_iinmathbb Q$ with $a_iinmathbb Z$, and have polynomials in $pi$ with integer coefficients.
In these two cases we get a subring, but not a subfield, of $mathbb C$.
On the other hand, we get a subfield when we consider all rational expressions in $pi$; that is, quotients of polynomials in $pi$ over $mathbb Q$.
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For example, $pi^2-2pi+1$ or $7pi^5-3pi^2+2pi$
– David Peterson
Nov 25 at 3:29