$Xin L^2$ implies $Y:=(X-E[X])^2 in L^1$












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Given the random variable $X in L^2$, we define a new variable $Y:=(X-E[X])^2$, where $E$ is the expectation. Why can we conclude that $Yin L^1$?



Is it because for any function $f in L^2$ the norm is $(int_X|f|^2)^{frac{1}{2}}$, so the norm squared would be a new function $g in L^2$ with $(int_X|g|)$?










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    Just expand that square and use that if $Y in L^2$ then $Y in L^1$ (this is true on probability spaces, using Holder's inequality). (You'll also use that the sum of $L^1$ functions is$L^1$)
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    By definition, $X$ is square integrable if its square is integrable, hence so is $Y.$ (I am not sure if you are asking for this tautology or something else...)
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$begingroup$


Given the random variable $X in L^2$, we define a new variable $Y:=(X-E[X])^2$, where $E$ is the expectation. Why can we conclude that $Yin L^1$?



Is it because for any function $f in L^2$ the norm is $(int_X|f|^2)^{frac{1}{2}}$, so the norm squared would be a new function $g in L^2$ with $(int_X|g|)$?










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    Just expand that square and use that if $Y in L^2$ then $Y in L^1$ (this is true on probability spaces, using Holder's inequality). (You'll also use that the sum of $L^1$ functions is$L^1$)
    $endgroup$
    – Lorenzo
    Dec 19 '18 at 19:19










  • $begingroup$
    By definition, $X$ is square integrable if its square is integrable, hence so is $Y.$ (I am not sure if you are asking for this tautology or something else...)
    $endgroup$
    – Will M.
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:12














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Given the random variable $X in L^2$, we define a new variable $Y:=(X-E[X])^2$, where $E$ is the expectation. Why can we conclude that $Yin L^1$?



Is it because for any function $f in L^2$ the norm is $(int_X|f|^2)^{frac{1}{2}}$, so the norm squared would be a new function $g in L^2$ with $(int_X|g|)$?










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Given the random variable $X in L^2$, we define a new variable $Y:=(X-E[X])^2$, where $E$ is the expectation. Why can we conclude that $Yin L^1$?



Is it because for any function $f in L^2$ the norm is $(int_X|f|^2)^{frac{1}{2}}$, so the norm squared would be a new function $g in L^2$ with $(int_X|g|)$?







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    Just expand that square and use that if $Y in L^2$ then $Y in L^1$ (this is true on probability spaces, using Holder's inequality). (You'll also use that the sum of $L^1$ functions is$L^1$)
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    – Lorenzo
    Dec 19 '18 at 19:19










  • $begingroup$
    By definition, $X$ is square integrable if its square is integrable, hence so is $Y.$ (I am not sure if you are asking for this tautology or something else...)
    $endgroup$
    – Will M.
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:12


















  • $begingroup$
    Just expand that square and use that if $Y in L^2$ then $Y in L^1$ (this is true on probability spaces, using Holder's inequality). (You'll also use that the sum of $L^1$ functions is$L^1$)
    $endgroup$
    – Lorenzo
    Dec 19 '18 at 19:19










  • $begingroup$
    By definition, $X$ is square integrable if its square is integrable, hence so is $Y.$ (I am not sure if you are asking for this tautology or something else...)
    $endgroup$
    – Will M.
    Dec 19 '18 at 20:12
















$begingroup$
Just expand that square and use that if $Y in L^2$ then $Y in L^1$ (this is true on probability spaces, using Holder's inequality). (You'll also use that the sum of $L^1$ functions is$L^1$)
$endgroup$
– Lorenzo
Dec 19 '18 at 19:19




$begingroup$
Just expand that square and use that if $Y in L^2$ then $Y in L^1$ (this is true on probability spaces, using Holder's inequality). (You'll also use that the sum of $L^1$ functions is$L^1$)
$endgroup$
– Lorenzo
Dec 19 '18 at 19:19












$begingroup$
By definition, $X$ is square integrable if its square is integrable, hence so is $Y.$ (I am not sure if you are asking for this tautology or something else...)
$endgroup$
– Will M.
Dec 19 '18 at 20:12




$begingroup$
By definition, $X$ is square integrable if its square is integrable, hence so is $Y.$ (I am not sure if you are asking for this tautology or something else...)
$endgroup$
– Will M.
Dec 19 '18 at 20:12










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$$E|Y| = E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2 le E[X^2] < infty.$$






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    How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
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    – Thesinus
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    @Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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$$E|Y| = E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2 le E[X^2] < infty.$$






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    How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
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    @Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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$$E|Y| = E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2 le E[X^2] < infty.$$






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    How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
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    @Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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$$E|Y| = E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2 le E[X^2] < infty.$$







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    How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
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    @Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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    How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
    $endgroup$
    – Thesinus
    Jan 17 at 16:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
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How do you actually get$E[(X - E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - E[X]^2$?
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– Thesinus
Jan 17 at 16:28












$begingroup$
@Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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@Thesinus $E[(X-E[X])^2] = E[X^2 - 2 X E[X] + (E[X])^2] = E[X^2] - 2 (E[X])^2 + (E[X])^2$.
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