Convergence of sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes integrals to Riemann-Stieltjes integral












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In connection with my post Convergence to Riemann-Stieltjes integral of sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes-like sums with changing integrand and integrator, an alternative approach to my main objective would be considering the convergence of the sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes (RS) integrals $int_0^1 , f_N(x) , mathrm{d}F_N(x)$ to the RS integral $int_0^1 , f(x) , mathrm{d}F(x)$. The properties of the functions involved are as defined in the aforementioned post. I repeat them in the following paragraph for convenience, though.



The functions are all real of a single real variable. Those in the sequence $(f_N)_N$ are continuous and bounded in $[0,1]$, and the sequence converges to a continuous function $f$ bounded in the same interval. In turn, those in $(F_N)_N$ are monotonically increasing step functions bounded in $[0,1]$ and the sequence is uniformly convergent to a function $F$ that is a cumulative distribution function.



Any hints on how to prove the above statement of convergence will be welcome.










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    I'm rusty. When you indicate $f_n longrightarrow f$, you intend convergence in the sup norm (i.e. uniform convergence)?
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    Have you tried the "obvious thing": see if you can show $int_0^1 ; |f - f_n| , mathrm{d}(|F - F_n|) longrightarrow 0$?
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    Not necessarily uniformly, but if it helps with a proof of convergence (or hints, with the details to be worked out by me), you are welcome to assume it is so.
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    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:11










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    No, actually I haven't. This question dawned on me as a rather indirect but actually alternative approach to the linked post. I'll check that.
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    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:13
















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In connection with my post Convergence to Riemann-Stieltjes integral of sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes-like sums with changing integrand and integrator, an alternative approach to my main objective would be considering the convergence of the sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes (RS) integrals $int_0^1 , f_N(x) , mathrm{d}F_N(x)$ to the RS integral $int_0^1 , f(x) , mathrm{d}F(x)$. The properties of the functions involved are as defined in the aforementioned post. I repeat them in the following paragraph for convenience, though.



The functions are all real of a single real variable. Those in the sequence $(f_N)_N$ are continuous and bounded in $[0,1]$, and the sequence converges to a continuous function $f$ bounded in the same interval. In turn, those in $(F_N)_N$ are monotonically increasing step functions bounded in $[0,1]$ and the sequence is uniformly convergent to a function $F$ that is a cumulative distribution function.



Any hints on how to prove the above statement of convergence will be welcome.










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  • $begingroup$
    I'm rusty. When you indicate $f_n longrightarrow f$, you intend convergence in the sup norm (i.e. uniform convergence)?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Have you tried the "obvious thing": see if you can show $int_0^1 ; |f - f_n| , mathrm{d}(|F - F_n|) longrightarrow 0$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    Not necessarily uniformly, but if it helps with a proof of convergence (or hints, with the details to be worked out by me), you are welcome to assume it is so.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:11










  • $begingroup$
    No, actually I haven't. This question dawned on me as a rather indirect but actually alternative approach to the linked post. I'll check that.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:13














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In connection with my post Convergence to Riemann-Stieltjes integral of sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes-like sums with changing integrand and integrator, an alternative approach to my main objective would be considering the convergence of the sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes (RS) integrals $int_0^1 , f_N(x) , mathrm{d}F_N(x)$ to the RS integral $int_0^1 , f(x) , mathrm{d}F(x)$. The properties of the functions involved are as defined in the aforementioned post. I repeat them in the following paragraph for convenience, though.



The functions are all real of a single real variable. Those in the sequence $(f_N)_N$ are continuous and bounded in $[0,1]$, and the sequence converges to a continuous function $f$ bounded in the same interval. In turn, those in $(F_N)_N$ are monotonically increasing step functions bounded in $[0,1]$ and the sequence is uniformly convergent to a function $F$ that is a cumulative distribution function.



Any hints on how to prove the above statement of convergence will be welcome.










share|cite|improve this question











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In connection with my post Convergence to Riemann-Stieltjes integral of sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes-like sums with changing integrand and integrator, an alternative approach to my main objective would be considering the convergence of the sequence of Riemann-Stieltjes (RS) integrals $int_0^1 , f_N(x) , mathrm{d}F_N(x)$ to the RS integral $int_0^1 , f(x) , mathrm{d}F(x)$. The properties of the functions involved are as defined in the aforementioned post. I repeat them in the following paragraph for convenience, though.



The functions are all real of a single real variable. Those in the sequence $(f_N)_N$ are continuous and bounded in $[0,1]$, and the sequence converges to a continuous function $f$ bounded in the same interval. In turn, those in $(F_N)_N$ are monotonically increasing step functions bounded in $[0,1]$ and the sequence is uniformly convergent to a function $F$ that is a cumulative distribution function.



Any hints on how to prove the above statement of convergence will be welcome.







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  • $begingroup$
    I'm rusty. When you indicate $f_n longrightarrow f$, you intend convergence in the sup norm (i.e. uniform convergence)?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Have you tried the "obvious thing": see if you can show $int_0^1 ; |f - f_n| , mathrm{d}(|F - F_n|) longrightarrow 0$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    Not necessarily uniformly, but if it helps with a proof of convergence (or hints, with the details to be worked out by me), you are welcome to assume it is so.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:11










  • $begingroup$
    No, actually I haven't. This question dawned on me as a rather indirect but actually alternative approach to the linked post. I'll check that.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:13


















  • $begingroup$
    I'm rusty. When you indicate $f_n longrightarrow f$, you intend convergence in the sup norm (i.e. uniform convergence)?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:03






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Have you tried the "obvious thing": see if you can show $int_0^1 ; |f - f_n| , mathrm{d}(|F - F_n|) longrightarrow 0$?
    $endgroup$
    – Eric Towers
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    Not necessarily uniformly, but if it helps with a proof of convergence (or hints, with the details to be worked out by me), you are welcome to assume it is so.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:11










  • $begingroup$
    No, actually I haven't. This question dawned on me as a rather indirect but actually alternative approach to the linked post. I'll check that.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:13
















$begingroup$
I'm rusty. When you indicate $f_n longrightarrow f$, you intend convergence in the sup norm (i.e. uniform convergence)?
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 3 '18 at 7:03




$begingroup$
I'm rusty. When you indicate $f_n longrightarrow f$, you intend convergence in the sup norm (i.e. uniform convergence)?
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 3 '18 at 7:03




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$begingroup$
Have you tried the "obvious thing": see if you can show $int_0^1 ; |f - f_n| , mathrm{d}(|F - F_n|) longrightarrow 0$?
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 3 '18 at 7:09




$begingroup$
Have you tried the "obvious thing": see if you can show $int_0^1 ; |f - f_n| , mathrm{d}(|F - F_n|) longrightarrow 0$?
$endgroup$
– Eric Towers
Dec 3 '18 at 7:09












$begingroup$
Not necessarily uniformly, but if it helps with a proof of convergence (or hints, with the details to be worked out by me), you are welcome to assume it is so.
$endgroup$
– Marcos
Dec 3 '18 at 7:11




$begingroup$
Not necessarily uniformly, but if it helps with a proof of convergence (or hints, with the details to be worked out by me), you are welcome to assume it is so.
$endgroup$
– Marcos
Dec 3 '18 at 7:11












$begingroup$
No, actually I haven't. This question dawned on me as a rather indirect but actually alternative approach to the linked post. I'll check that.
$endgroup$
– Marcos
Dec 3 '18 at 7:13




$begingroup$
No, actually I haven't. This question dawned on me as a rather indirect but actually alternative approach to the linked post. I'll check that.
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$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right| leqslant left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right|+ left|int_0^1f , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right|$$



(1) We can estimate the first term on the RHS and prove convergence to $0$, if $F_N$ has bounded variation $V_0^1(F_N)$, using



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dV_0^x(F_N), $$
although with the simplification that $F_N$ is montonically increasing we have



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dF_N $$



With uniform convergence of $f_n to f$ and uniform boundedness of $F_N$ it is easy to progress. Given that $|F_N(x)| leqslant M$ uniformly in $N$ and $x$ -- which is true if $F_N$ converges uniformly to a bounded function $F$ -- then for all sufficiently large $N$ we have $|f_N(x) - f(x)| < epsilon/(2M)$ and



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| < frac{epsilon}{2M}[F_N(1) - F_N(0)] < frac{epsilon}{2M}2M = epsilon $$



(2) Estimate the second term on the RHS most easily using Rieman sums.






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    Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
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    Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
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Hints:



Note that



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right| leqslant left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right|+ left|int_0^1f , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right|$$



(1) We can estimate the first term on the RHS and prove convergence to $0$, if $F_N$ has bounded variation $V_0^1(F_N)$, using



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dV_0^x(F_N), $$
although with the simplification that $F_N$ is montonically increasing we have



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dF_N $$



With uniform convergence of $f_n to f$ and uniform boundedness of $F_N$ it is easy to progress. Given that $|F_N(x)| leqslant M$ uniformly in $N$ and $x$ -- which is true if $F_N$ converges uniformly to a bounded function $F$ -- then for all sufficiently large $N$ we have $|f_N(x) - f(x)| < epsilon/(2M)$ and



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| < frac{epsilon}{2M}[F_N(1) - F_N(0)] < frac{epsilon}{2M}2M = epsilon $$



(2) Estimate the second term on the RHS most easily using Rieman sums.






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    Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
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    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:52










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
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    Dec 29 '18 at 6:47


















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$begingroup$

Hints:



Note that



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right| leqslant left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right|+ left|int_0^1f , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right|$$



(1) We can estimate the first term on the RHS and prove convergence to $0$, if $F_N$ has bounded variation $V_0^1(F_N)$, using



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dV_0^x(F_N), $$
although with the simplification that $F_N$ is montonically increasing we have



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dF_N $$



With uniform convergence of $f_n to f$ and uniform boundedness of $F_N$ it is easy to progress. Given that $|F_N(x)| leqslant M$ uniformly in $N$ and $x$ -- which is true if $F_N$ converges uniformly to a bounded function $F$ -- then for all sufficiently large $N$ we have $|f_N(x) - f(x)| < epsilon/(2M)$ and



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| < frac{epsilon}{2M}[F_N(1) - F_N(0)] < frac{epsilon}{2M}2M = epsilon $$



(2) Estimate the second term on the RHS most easily using Rieman sums.






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    Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:52










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
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    – Marcos
    Dec 29 '18 at 6:47
















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$begingroup$

Hints:



Note that



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right| leqslant left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right|+ left|int_0^1f , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right|$$



(1) We can estimate the first term on the RHS and prove convergence to $0$, if $F_N$ has bounded variation $V_0^1(F_N)$, using



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dV_0^x(F_N), $$
although with the simplification that $F_N$ is montonically increasing we have



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dF_N $$



With uniform convergence of $f_n to f$ and uniform boundedness of $F_N$ it is easy to progress. Given that $|F_N(x)| leqslant M$ uniformly in $N$ and $x$ -- which is true if $F_N$ converges uniformly to a bounded function $F$ -- then for all sufficiently large $N$ we have $|f_N(x) - f(x)| < epsilon/(2M)$ and



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| < frac{epsilon}{2M}[F_N(1) - F_N(0)] < frac{epsilon}{2M}2M = epsilon $$



(2) Estimate the second term on the RHS most easily using Rieman sums.






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Hints:



Note that



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right| leqslant left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right|+ left|int_0^1f , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF right|$$



(1) We can estimate the first term on the RHS and prove convergence to $0$, if $F_N$ has bounded variation $V_0^1(F_N)$, using



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dV_0^x(F_N), $$
although with the simplification that $F_N$ is montonically increasing we have



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| leqslant int_0^1|f_N - f|, dF_N $$



With uniform convergence of $f_n to f$ and uniform boundedness of $F_N$ it is easy to progress. Given that $|F_N(x)| leqslant M$ uniformly in $N$ and $x$ -- which is true if $F_N$ converges uniformly to a bounded function $F$ -- then for all sufficiently large $N$ we have $|f_N(x) - f(x)| < epsilon/(2M)$ and



$$left|int_0^1f_N , dF_N - int_0^1 f , dF_N right| < frac{epsilon}{2M}[F_N(1) - F_N(0)] < frac{epsilon}{2M}2M = epsilon $$



(2) Estimate the second term on the RHS most easily using Rieman sums.







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  • $begingroup$
    Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:52










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 29 '18 at 6:47




















  • $begingroup$
    Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 3 '18 at 7:52










  • $begingroup$
    Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
    $endgroup$
    – Marcos
    Dec 29 '18 at 6:47


















$begingroup$
Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
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– Marcos
Dec 3 '18 at 7:52




$begingroup$
Thanks so much. As with my linked post, I'll be back as soon as I have worked out the details.
$endgroup$
– Marcos
Dec 3 '18 at 7:52












$begingroup$
Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
$endgroup$
– Marcos
Dec 29 '18 at 6:47






$begingroup$
Actually, my difficulty is currently with the second term on the RHS. I was thinking of applying the bound $big|int_0^1 f d(F_n-F) big| leq sup_{[0,1]} |f| , V_0^1(F_n-F)$, but I haven't been able to obtainanything useful regarding the limiting total variation of $F_n-F$ on $[0,1]$, whence it came my question math.stackexchange.com/questions/3055573/…
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