Would using a laptop battery with 0.2 V difference hurt my laptop?












0















A similar question has been asked before but it doesn't answer my specific problem.



I got the HP Star Wars Special Edition Laptop (HP Pavilion series) when they were promoting The Force Awakens about three years ago. I'm looking to replace my battery since it has a maximum lifetime of 20 minutes without being plugged in.



The specific battery model is 800049-001 with 14.6V and 41Wh. I've looked everywhere and only found one result but it doesn't ship to my location. However there are plenty of batteries that are the same model that are either 14.4V and 14.8V.



When researching I found that a difference in amps or watts isn't a terribly big deal, but a difference in voltage is dangerous to the computer and the user due to the difference in chemistry.



How dangerous would using a battery with a 0.2V difference to my current battery be?










share|improve this question



























    0















    A similar question has been asked before but it doesn't answer my specific problem.



    I got the HP Star Wars Special Edition Laptop (HP Pavilion series) when they were promoting The Force Awakens about three years ago. I'm looking to replace my battery since it has a maximum lifetime of 20 minutes without being plugged in.



    The specific battery model is 800049-001 with 14.6V and 41Wh. I've looked everywhere and only found one result but it doesn't ship to my location. However there are plenty of batteries that are the same model that are either 14.4V and 14.8V.



    When researching I found that a difference in amps or watts isn't a terribly big deal, but a difference in voltage is dangerous to the computer and the user due to the difference in chemistry.



    How dangerous would using a battery with a 0.2V difference to my current battery be?










    share|improve this question

























      0












      0








      0


      1






      A similar question has been asked before but it doesn't answer my specific problem.



      I got the HP Star Wars Special Edition Laptop (HP Pavilion series) when they were promoting The Force Awakens about three years ago. I'm looking to replace my battery since it has a maximum lifetime of 20 minutes without being plugged in.



      The specific battery model is 800049-001 with 14.6V and 41Wh. I've looked everywhere and only found one result but it doesn't ship to my location. However there are plenty of batteries that are the same model that are either 14.4V and 14.8V.



      When researching I found that a difference in amps or watts isn't a terribly big deal, but a difference in voltage is dangerous to the computer and the user due to the difference in chemistry.



      How dangerous would using a battery with a 0.2V difference to my current battery be?










      share|improve this question














      A similar question has been asked before but it doesn't answer my specific problem.



      I got the HP Star Wars Special Edition Laptop (HP Pavilion series) when they were promoting The Force Awakens about three years ago. I'm looking to replace my battery since it has a maximum lifetime of 20 minutes without being plugged in.



      The specific battery model is 800049-001 with 14.6V and 41Wh. I've looked everywhere and only found one result but it doesn't ship to my location. However there are plenty of batteries that are the same model that are either 14.4V and 14.8V.



      When researching I found that a difference in amps or watts isn't a terribly big deal, but a difference in voltage is dangerous to the computer and the user due to the difference in chemistry.



      How dangerous would using a battery with a 0.2V difference to my current battery be?







      laptop power-supply battery hp-pavilion lithium-ion






      share|improve this question













      share|improve this question











      share|improve this question




      share|improve this question










      asked Jan 18 at 20:09









      ZachZach

      31




      31






















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          2














          In general terms - If the battery is 14.8 volts (and in the unlikely event it fits) it should be safe to use and will probably work OK, but not get fully charged (so less runtime). That is actually good for the battery. On the other hand a 14.4 volt battery is not a great idea as you are providing to much voltage to the battery, which could cause issues and early failure.



          In practice I suspect (but cant know) that the batteries are all OK and will work fine due to voltage control and regulation on the battery itself, and because the difference is small. (Assuming the connectors fit - which in itself is likely to strongly imply compatibility)



          In other words, no one outside HP can guarantee you it will work OK, but if you want to take a punt, go with the 14.8 volt one after ensuring the physical characteristics - and particularly the connector - fit.






          share|improve this answer

































            2














            It'll be fine.



            14.6, 14.4, 14.8... All of these are well within the variations expected for the "nominal" voltage for Lithium-ion batteries. These are clearly four-cell batteries (nominal 3.6 V/cell, 3.7 for some slight variations in chemistry), but when freshly charged they'll be at more like 4.2 or 4.3 V/cell.



            Concerns for "won't be fully charged" are not justified. The charging circuit must apply higher than the fully charged terminal voltage to get the battery charged. You can get an idea of how high that is by looking at the output voltage of the AC adapter. The worst that could happen here is that the higher-voltage battery might take just slightly longer to reach full charge.



            As for powering the rest of the laptop, there's no issue there either. Every voltage applied to the laptop's internal circuits (from fans to CPU) comes not directly from the battery or AC adapter, but through voltage regulators. (Note, these are not inside the battery! They're inside the laptop.) When running on AC, these must cope with the power adapter's output - which as already noted, must be considerably higher than the battery's fully-charged voltage, let alone the nominal voltage. If the voltage regulators can handle that, certainly they can handle a battery voltage variation of a few tenths of a volt.



            The notion that these circuits will fail, or fail prematurely, from battery voltage not two percent higher than the original is completely unsupportable.



            Heck, even incandescent lamps aren't that fussy, and they probably have the steepest voltage-to-lifetime curve of anything we usually deal with.






            share|improve this answer

























              Your Answer








              StackExchange.ready(function() {
              var channelOptions = {
              tags: "".split(" "),
              id: "3"
              };
              initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

              StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
              // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
              if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
              StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
              createEditor();
              });
              }
              else {
              createEditor();
              }
              });

              function createEditor() {
              StackExchange.prepareEditor({
              heartbeatType: 'answer',
              autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
              convertImagesToLinks: true,
              noModals: true,
              showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
              reputationToPostImages: 10,
              bindNavPrevention: true,
              postfix: "",
              imageUploader: {
              brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
              contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
              allowUrls: true
              },
              onDemand: true,
              discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
              ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
              });


              }
              });














              draft saved

              draft discarded


















              StackExchange.ready(
              function () {
              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fsuperuser.com%2fquestions%2f1395905%2fwould-using-a-laptop-battery-with-0-2-v-difference-hurt-my-laptop%23new-answer', 'question_page');
              }
              );

              Post as a guest















              Required, but never shown

























              2 Answers
              2






              active

              oldest

              votes








              2 Answers
              2






              active

              oldest

              votes









              active

              oldest

              votes






              active

              oldest

              votes









              2














              In general terms - If the battery is 14.8 volts (and in the unlikely event it fits) it should be safe to use and will probably work OK, but not get fully charged (so less runtime). That is actually good for the battery. On the other hand a 14.4 volt battery is not a great idea as you are providing to much voltage to the battery, which could cause issues and early failure.



              In practice I suspect (but cant know) that the batteries are all OK and will work fine due to voltage control and regulation on the battery itself, and because the difference is small. (Assuming the connectors fit - which in itself is likely to strongly imply compatibility)



              In other words, no one outside HP can guarantee you it will work OK, but if you want to take a punt, go with the 14.8 volt one after ensuring the physical characteristics - and particularly the connector - fit.






              share|improve this answer






























                2














                In general terms - If the battery is 14.8 volts (and in the unlikely event it fits) it should be safe to use and will probably work OK, but not get fully charged (so less runtime). That is actually good for the battery. On the other hand a 14.4 volt battery is not a great idea as you are providing to much voltage to the battery, which could cause issues and early failure.



                In practice I suspect (but cant know) that the batteries are all OK and will work fine due to voltage control and regulation on the battery itself, and because the difference is small. (Assuming the connectors fit - which in itself is likely to strongly imply compatibility)



                In other words, no one outside HP can guarantee you it will work OK, but if you want to take a punt, go with the 14.8 volt one after ensuring the physical characteristics - and particularly the connector - fit.






                share|improve this answer




























                  2












                  2








                  2







                  In general terms - If the battery is 14.8 volts (and in the unlikely event it fits) it should be safe to use and will probably work OK, but not get fully charged (so less runtime). That is actually good for the battery. On the other hand a 14.4 volt battery is not a great idea as you are providing to much voltage to the battery, which could cause issues and early failure.



                  In practice I suspect (but cant know) that the batteries are all OK and will work fine due to voltage control and regulation on the battery itself, and because the difference is small. (Assuming the connectors fit - which in itself is likely to strongly imply compatibility)



                  In other words, no one outside HP can guarantee you it will work OK, but if you want to take a punt, go with the 14.8 volt one after ensuring the physical characteristics - and particularly the connector - fit.






                  share|improve this answer















                  In general terms - If the battery is 14.8 volts (and in the unlikely event it fits) it should be safe to use and will probably work OK, but not get fully charged (so less runtime). That is actually good for the battery. On the other hand a 14.4 volt battery is not a great idea as you are providing to much voltage to the battery, which could cause issues and early failure.



                  In practice I suspect (but cant know) that the batteries are all OK and will work fine due to voltage control and regulation on the battery itself, and because the difference is small. (Assuming the connectors fit - which in itself is likely to strongly imply compatibility)



                  In other words, no one outside HP can guarantee you it will work OK, but if you want to take a punt, go with the 14.8 volt one after ensuring the physical characteristics - and particularly the connector - fit.







                  share|improve this answer














                  share|improve this answer



                  share|improve this answer








                  edited Jan 18 at 23:21

























                  answered Jan 18 at 21:05









                  davidgodavidgo

                  44k75292




                  44k75292

























                      2














                      It'll be fine.



                      14.6, 14.4, 14.8... All of these are well within the variations expected for the "nominal" voltage for Lithium-ion batteries. These are clearly four-cell batteries (nominal 3.6 V/cell, 3.7 for some slight variations in chemistry), but when freshly charged they'll be at more like 4.2 or 4.3 V/cell.



                      Concerns for "won't be fully charged" are not justified. The charging circuit must apply higher than the fully charged terminal voltage to get the battery charged. You can get an idea of how high that is by looking at the output voltage of the AC adapter. The worst that could happen here is that the higher-voltage battery might take just slightly longer to reach full charge.



                      As for powering the rest of the laptop, there's no issue there either. Every voltage applied to the laptop's internal circuits (from fans to CPU) comes not directly from the battery or AC adapter, but through voltage regulators. (Note, these are not inside the battery! They're inside the laptop.) When running on AC, these must cope with the power adapter's output - which as already noted, must be considerably higher than the battery's fully-charged voltage, let alone the nominal voltage. If the voltage regulators can handle that, certainly they can handle a battery voltage variation of a few tenths of a volt.



                      The notion that these circuits will fail, or fail prematurely, from battery voltage not two percent higher than the original is completely unsupportable.



                      Heck, even incandescent lamps aren't that fussy, and they probably have the steepest voltage-to-lifetime curve of anything we usually deal with.






                      share|improve this answer






























                        2














                        It'll be fine.



                        14.6, 14.4, 14.8... All of these are well within the variations expected for the "nominal" voltage for Lithium-ion batteries. These are clearly four-cell batteries (nominal 3.6 V/cell, 3.7 for some slight variations in chemistry), but when freshly charged they'll be at more like 4.2 or 4.3 V/cell.



                        Concerns for "won't be fully charged" are not justified. The charging circuit must apply higher than the fully charged terminal voltage to get the battery charged. You can get an idea of how high that is by looking at the output voltage of the AC adapter. The worst that could happen here is that the higher-voltage battery might take just slightly longer to reach full charge.



                        As for powering the rest of the laptop, there's no issue there either. Every voltage applied to the laptop's internal circuits (from fans to CPU) comes not directly from the battery or AC adapter, but through voltage regulators. (Note, these are not inside the battery! They're inside the laptop.) When running on AC, these must cope with the power adapter's output - which as already noted, must be considerably higher than the battery's fully-charged voltage, let alone the nominal voltage. If the voltage regulators can handle that, certainly they can handle a battery voltage variation of a few tenths of a volt.



                        The notion that these circuits will fail, or fail prematurely, from battery voltage not two percent higher than the original is completely unsupportable.



                        Heck, even incandescent lamps aren't that fussy, and they probably have the steepest voltage-to-lifetime curve of anything we usually deal with.






                        share|improve this answer




























                          2












                          2








                          2







                          It'll be fine.



                          14.6, 14.4, 14.8... All of these are well within the variations expected for the "nominal" voltage for Lithium-ion batteries. These are clearly four-cell batteries (nominal 3.6 V/cell, 3.7 for some slight variations in chemistry), but when freshly charged they'll be at more like 4.2 or 4.3 V/cell.



                          Concerns for "won't be fully charged" are not justified. The charging circuit must apply higher than the fully charged terminal voltage to get the battery charged. You can get an idea of how high that is by looking at the output voltage of the AC adapter. The worst that could happen here is that the higher-voltage battery might take just slightly longer to reach full charge.



                          As for powering the rest of the laptop, there's no issue there either. Every voltage applied to the laptop's internal circuits (from fans to CPU) comes not directly from the battery or AC adapter, but through voltage regulators. (Note, these are not inside the battery! They're inside the laptop.) When running on AC, these must cope with the power adapter's output - which as already noted, must be considerably higher than the battery's fully-charged voltage, let alone the nominal voltage. If the voltage regulators can handle that, certainly they can handle a battery voltage variation of a few tenths of a volt.



                          The notion that these circuits will fail, or fail prematurely, from battery voltage not two percent higher than the original is completely unsupportable.



                          Heck, even incandescent lamps aren't that fussy, and they probably have the steepest voltage-to-lifetime curve of anything we usually deal with.






                          share|improve this answer















                          It'll be fine.



                          14.6, 14.4, 14.8... All of these are well within the variations expected for the "nominal" voltage for Lithium-ion batteries. These are clearly four-cell batteries (nominal 3.6 V/cell, 3.7 for some slight variations in chemistry), but when freshly charged they'll be at more like 4.2 or 4.3 V/cell.



                          Concerns for "won't be fully charged" are not justified. The charging circuit must apply higher than the fully charged terminal voltage to get the battery charged. You can get an idea of how high that is by looking at the output voltage of the AC adapter. The worst that could happen here is that the higher-voltage battery might take just slightly longer to reach full charge.



                          As for powering the rest of the laptop, there's no issue there either. Every voltage applied to the laptop's internal circuits (from fans to CPU) comes not directly from the battery or AC adapter, but through voltage regulators. (Note, these are not inside the battery! They're inside the laptop.) When running on AC, these must cope with the power adapter's output - which as already noted, must be considerably higher than the battery's fully-charged voltage, let alone the nominal voltage. If the voltage regulators can handle that, certainly they can handle a battery voltage variation of a few tenths of a volt.



                          The notion that these circuits will fail, or fail prematurely, from battery voltage not two percent higher than the original is completely unsupportable.



                          Heck, even incandescent lamps aren't that fussy, and they probably have the steepest voltage-to-lifetime curve of anything we usually deal with.







                          share|improve this answer














                          share|improve this answer



                          share|improve this answer








                          edited Jan 20 at 15:28

























                          answered Jan 20 at 2:15









                          Jamie HanrahanJamie Hanrahan

                          18.7k34279




                          18.7k34279






























                              draft saved

                              draft discarded




















































                              Thanks for contributing an answer to Super User!


                              • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                              But avoid



                              • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                              • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                              To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                              draft saved


                              draft discarded














                              StackExchange.ready(
                              function () {
                              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fsuperuser.com%2fquestions%2f1395905%2fwould-using-a-laptop-battery-with-0-2-v-difference-hurt-my-laptop%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                              }
                              );

                              Post as a guest















                              Required, but never shown





















































                              Required, but never shown














                              Required, but never shown












                              Required, but never shown







                              Required, but never shown

































                              Required, but never shown














                              Required, but never shown












                              Required, but never shown







                              Required, but never shown







                              Popular posts from this blog

                              Plaza Victoria

                              Puebla de Zaragoza

                              Musa