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Can someone help me finding maximum value of a ratio in quadratic function in 2 variables using proper mathematical methods.?



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If x and y are real numbers such that $x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0$, determine the maximum value of the ratio $y/x$



I know there is Ramban method to solve this. Taking $y/x=k --> y=kx$ and forming equation in x , then applying $^2 - 4ac >=0$ for max min value of k.



Is there any way to using differentiation ?



Sorry in advance if this is a repeat. I am new to platform.










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    Can someone help me finding maximum value of a ratio in quadratic function in 2 variables using proper mathematical methods.?



    Question is as below.



    If x and y are real numbers such that $x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0$, determine the maximum value of the ratio $y/x$



    I know there is Ramban method to solve this. Taking $y/x=k --> y=kx$ and forming equation in x , then applying $^2 - 4ac >=0$ for max min value of k.



    Is there any way to using differentiation ?



    Sorry in advance if this is a repeat. I am new to platform.










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      Can someone help me finding maximum value of a ratio in quadratic function in 2 variables using proper mathematical methods.?



      Question is as below.



      If x and y are real numbers such that $x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0$, determine the maximum value of the ratio $y/x$



      I know there is Ramban method to solve this. Taking $y/x=k --> y=kx$ and forming equation in x , then applying $^2 - 4ac >=0$ for max min value of k.



      Is there any way to using differentiation ?



      Sorry in advance if this is a repeat. I am new to platform.










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      Can someone help me finding maximum value of a ratio in quadratic function in 2 variables using proper mathematical methods.?



      Question is as below.



      If x and y are real numbers such that $x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0$, determine the maximum value of the ratio $y/x$



      I know there is Ramban method to solve this. Taking $y/x=k --> y=kx$ and forming equation in x , then applying $^2 - 4ac >=0$ for max min value of k.



      Is there any way to using differentiation ?



      Sorry in advance if this is a repeat. I am new to platform.







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          Note that the equation is a circle with center $O(5,0)$ and radius $3$:
          $$x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0 iff (x-5)^2+y^2=9$$
          The objective function is $frac yx=k iff y=kx$, whose contour lines will pass through the origin. So you need to find the slope of the tangent to the circle. See the graph:



          $hspace{4cm}$enter image description here



          Hence, the slope is $k=frac 34$, which is the maximum value of $frac yx$ at $x=frac{16}{5}$ and $y=frac{12}{5}$.






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            Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
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          $y/x=m.$



          $x^2-10x+(mx)^2+16=0.$



          $(1+m^2)x^2 -10x+16=0.$



          $small{(1+m^2)left (x^2-dfrac{10}{1+m^2}x right) +16=0.}$



          Completing the square:



          $small{(1+m^2)left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right)^2 -dfrac{25}{1+m^2}+16=0.}$



          $small{(1+m^2)^2 left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right )^2 =-16(1+m^2)+25 ge 0.}$



          Hence :



          $25/16 ge 1+m^2$.



          $9/16 ge m^2$.



          Maximal $m:$



          $m=3/4.$






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            $begingroup$

            Note that the equation is a circle with center $O(5,0)$ and radius $3$:
            $$x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0 iff (x-5)^2+y^2=9$$
            The objective function is $frac yx=k iff y=kx$, whose contour lines will pass through the origin. So you need to find the slope of the tangent to the circle. See the graph:



            $hspace{4cm}$enter image description here



            Hence, the slope is $k=frac 34$, which is the maximum value of $frac yx$ at $x=frac{16}{5}$ and $y=frac{12}{5}$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
              $endgroup$
              – Vishu Sahni
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:40
















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            $begingroup$

            Note that the equation is a circle with center $O(5,0)$ and radius $3$:
            $$x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0 iff (x-5)^2+y^2=9$$
            The objective function is $frac yx=k iff y=kx$, whose contour lines will pass through the origin. So you need to find the slope of the tangent to the circle. See the graph:



            $hspace{4cm}$enter image description here



            Hence, the slope is $k=frac 34$, which is the maximum value of $frac yx$ at $x=frac{16}{5}$ and $y=frac{12}{5}$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
              $endgroup$
              – Vishu Sahni
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:40














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            $begingroup$

            Note that the equation is a circle with center $O(5,0)$ and radius $3$:
            $$x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0 iff (x-5)^2+y^2=9$$
            The objective function is $frac yx=k iff y=kx$, whose contour lines will pass through the origin. So you need to find the slope of the tangent to the circle. See the graph:



            $hspace{4cm}$enter image description here



            Hence, the slope is $k=frac 34$, which is the maximum value of $frac yx$ at $x=frac{16}{5}$ and $y=frac{12}{5}$.






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            Note that the equation is a circle with center $O(5,0)$ and radius $3$:
            $$x^2 -10x+y^2 +16=0 iff (x-5)^2+y^2=9$$
            The objective function is $frac yx=k iff y=kx$, whose contour lines will pass through the origin. So you need to find the slope of the tangent to the circle. See the graph:



            $hspace{4cm}$enter image description here



            Hence, the slope is $k=frac 34$, which is the maximum value of $frac yx$ at $x=frac{16}{5}$ and $y=frac{12}{5}$.







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            • $begingroup$
              Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
              $endgroup$
              – Vishu Sahni
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:40


















            • $begingroup$
              Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
              $endgroup$
              – Vishu Sahni
              Dec 13 '18 at 21:40
















            $begingroup$
            Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
            $endgroup$
            – Vishu Sahni
            Dec 13 '18 at 21:40




            $begingroup$
            Amazing. This is the kind of solution I was looking for that I can apply in aptitude exam within limited time. Thanks
            $endgroup$
            – Vishu Sahni
            Dec 13 '18 at 21:40











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            $y/x=m.$



            $x^2-10x+(mx)^2+16=0.$



            $(1+m^2)x^2 -10x+16=0.$



            $small{(1+m^2)left (x^2-dfrac{10}{1+m^2}x right) +16=0.}$



            Completing the square:



            $small{(1+m^2)left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right)^2 -dfrac{25}{1+m^2}+16=0.}$



            $small{(1+m^2)^2 left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right )^2 =-16(1+m^2)+25 ge 0.}$



            Hence :



            $25/16 ge 1+m^2$.



            $9/16 ge m^2$.



            Maximal $m:$



            $m=3/4.$






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              $y/x=m.$



              $x^2-10x+(mx)^2+16=0.$



              $(1+m^2)x^2 -10x+16=0.$



              $small{(1+m^2)left (x^2-dfrac{10}{1+m^2}x right) +16=0.}$



              Completing the square:



              $small{(1+m^2)left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right)^2 -dfrac{25}{1+m^2}+16=0.}$



              $small{(1+m^2)^2 left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right )^2 =-16(1+m^2)+25 ge 0.}$



              Hence :



              $25/16 ge 1+m^2$.



              $9/16 ge m^2$.



              Maximal $m:$



              $m=3/4.$






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                $y/x=m.$



                $x^2-10x+(mx)^2+16=0.$



                $(1+m^2)x^2 -10x+16=0.$



                $small{(1+m^2)left (x^2-dfrac{10}{1+m^2}x right) +16=0.}$



                Completing the square:



                $small{(1+m^2)left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right)^2 -dfrac{25}{1+m^2}+16=0.}$



                $small{(1+m^2)^2 left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right )^2 =-16(1+m^2)+25 ge 0.}$



                Hence :



                $25/16 ge 1+m^2$.



                $9/16 ge m^2$.



                Maximal $m:$



                $m=3/4.$






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                $y/x=m.$



                $x^2-10x+(mx)^2+16=0.$



                $(1+m^2)x^2 -10x+16=0.$



                $small{(1+m^2)left (x^2-dfrac{10}{1+m^2}x right) +16=0.}$



                Completing the square:



                $small{(1+m^2)left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right)^2 -dfrac{25}{1+m^2}+16=0.}$



                $small{(1+m^2)^2 left (x-dfrac{5}{1+m^2}right )^2 =-16(1+m^2)+25 ge 0.}$



                Hence :



                $25/16 ge 1+m^2$.



                $9/16 ge m^2$.



                Maximal $m:$



                $m=3/4.$







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                answered Dec 12 '18 at 23:19









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