How to prove these two derangement number formulas are equivalent












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In helping someone with a coding challenge for calculating the derangement number, I learned that the formula I came up with:



$$d(n)=ncdot d(n-1)+(-1)^n$$



is not the one that most references quote: both Wikipedia and Wolfram list:



$$d(n)=(n-1)[(d(n-1)+d(n-2)]$$



instead. I can see how the second formulation is easier to arrive at intuitively, but I can't think how these two can be proven to be the same. Wolfram lists both, and indeed the series of $d(n)$ are identical empirically, but how would one go about proving they are the same?










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  • Wolfram lists both recursions with just the word “and” between them.
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In helping someone with a coding challenge for calculating the derangement number, I learned that the formula I came up with:



$$d(n)=ncdot d(n-1)+(-1)^n$$



is not the one that most references quote: both Wikipedia and Wolfram list:



$$d(n)=(n-1)[(d(n-1)+d(n-2)]$$



instead. I can see how the second formulation is easier to arrive at intuitively, but I can't think how these two can be proven to be the same. Wolfram lists both, and indeed the series of $d(n)$ are identical empirically, but how would one go about proving they are the same?










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  • Wolfram lists both recursions with just the word “and” between them.
    – David K
    Nov 24 at 22:06














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In helping someone with a coding challenge for calculating the derangement number, I learned that the formula I came up with:



$$d(n)=ncdot d(n-1)+(-1)^n$$



is not the one that most references quote: both Wikipedia and Wolfram list:



$$d(n)=(n-1)[(d(n-1)+d(n-2)]$$



instead. I can see how the second formulation is easier to arrive at intuitively, but I can't think how these two can be proven to be the same. Wolfram lists both, and indeed the series of $d(n)$ are identical empirically, but how would one go about proving they are the same?










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In helping someone with a coding challenge for calculating the derangement number, I learned that the formula I came up with:



$$d(n)=ncdot d(n-1)+(-1)^n$$



is not the one that most references quote: both Wikipedia and Wolfram list:



$$d(n)=(n-1)[(d(n-1)+d(n-2)]$$



instead. I can see how the second formulation is easier to arrive at intuitively, but I can't think how these two can be proven to be the same. Wolfram lists both, and indeed the series of $d(n)$ are identical empirically, but how would one go about proving they are the same?







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  • Wolfram lists both recursions with just the word “and” between them.
    – David K
    Nov 24 at 22:06


















  • Wolfram lists both recursions with just the word “and” between them.
    – David K
    Nov 24 at 22:06
















Wolfram lists both recursions with just the word “and” between them.
– David K
Nov 24 at 22:06




Wolfram lists both recursions with just the word “and” between them.
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The first formula can easily be used to derive the second formula ...
begin{eqnarray*}
d_{n-1}&=&(n-1)d_{n-2}+(-1)^{n-1} \
d_{n}&=&nd_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+d_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+(n-1)d_{n-2}+underbrace{(-1)^{n-1}+(-1)^{n}}_{=0}. \
end{eqnarray*}






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  • Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
    – jbeldock
    Nov 24 at 21:15













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The first formula can easily be used to derive the second formula ...
begin{eqnarray*}
d_{n-1}&=&(n-1)d_{n-2}+(-1)^{n-1} \
d_{n}&=&nd_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+d_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+(n-1)d_{n-2}+underbrace{(-1)^{n-1}+(-1)^{n}}_{=0}. \
end{eqnarray*}






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  • Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
    – jbeldock
    Nov 24 at 21:15


















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The first formula can easily be used to derive the second formula ...
begin{eqnarray*}
d_{n-1}&=&(n-1)d_{n-2}+(-1)^{n-1} \
d_{n}&=&nd_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+d_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+(n-1)d_{n-2}+underbrace{(-1)^{n-1}+(-1)^{n}}_{=0}. \
end{eqnarray*}






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  • Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
    – jbeldock
    Nov 24 at 21:15
















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The first formula can easily be used to derive the second formula ...
begin{eqnarray*}
d_{n-1}&=&(n-1)d_{n-2}+(-1)^{n-1} \
d_{n}&=&nd_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+d_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+(n-1)d_{n-2}+underbrace{(-1)^{n-1}+(-1)^{n}}_{=0}. \
end{eqnarray*}






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The first formula can easily be used to derive the second formula ...
begin{eqnarray*}
d_{n-1}&=&(n-1)d_{n-2}+(-1)^{n-1} \
d_{n}&=&nd_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+d_{n-1}+(-1)^{n} \
&=&(n-1)d_{n-1}+(n-1)d_{n-2}+underbrace{(-1)^{n-1}+(-1)^{n}}_{=0}. \
end{eqnarray*}







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  • Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
    – jbeldock
    Nov 24 at 21:15




















  • Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
    – jbeldock
    Nov 24 at 21:15


















Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
– jbeldock
Nov 24 at 21:15






Thank you! Too me a minute to figure out what you did from line 2 to 3, but get it now! $nd_{n-1} = (n-1)d_{n-1} + d_{n-1}$
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Nov 24 at 21:15




















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