Why is this imbedding continuous?
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Define the imbedding $i_{x_{1}}: Y rightarrow X times Y$ by $i_{x_{1}}(y) = (x_1,y)$, where $X$ and $Y$ are topological spaces. Then supposedly $i_{x_{1}}$ is continuous, but I fail to see why; we need to show that $i_{x_{1}}^{-1}(O)$ is open, where $O$ is any open subset of $X times Y$. I don't see why this is the case; can anyone provide me a proof of why the imbedding is continuous? Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
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Define the imbedding $i_{x_{1}}: Y rightarrow X times Y$ by $i_{x_{1}}(y) = (x_1,y)$, where $X$ and $Y$ are topological spaces. Then supposedly $i_{x_{1}}$ is continuous, but I fail to see why; we need to show that $i_{x_{1}}^{-1}(O)$ is open, where $O$ is any open subset of $X times Y$. I don't see why this is the case; can anyone provide me a proof of why the imbedding is continuous? Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
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you just need to check $i_{x_i}^{-1}(O)$ is open when $O$ is of the form $Utimes V$ for $U$ open in $X$ and $V$ open in $Y$ (since such sets form a basis for the product topology). And $i_{x_1}^{-1}(Utimes V) = emptyset$ if $x_1 not in U$ and $V$ if $x_1 in U$.
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Define the imbedding $i_{x_{1}}: Y rightarrow X times Y$ by $i_{x_{1}}(y) = (x_1,y)$, where $X$ and $Y$ are topological spaces. Then supposedly $i_{x_{1}}$ is continuous, but I fail to see why; we need to show that $i_{x_{1}}^{-1}(O)$ is open, where $O$ is any open subset of $X times Y$. I don't see why this is the case; can anyone provide me a proof of why the imbedding is continuous? Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
general-topology continuity
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Define the imbedding $i_{x_{1}}: Y rightarrow X times Y$ by $i_{x_{1}}(y) = (x_1,y)$, where $X$ and $Y$ are topological spaces. Then supposedly $i_{x_{1}}$ is continuous, but I fail to see why; we need to show that $i_{x_{1}}^{-1}(O)$ is open, where $O$ is any open subset of $X times Y$. I don't see why this is the case; can anyone provide me a proof of why the imbedding is continuous? Thanks in advance for your time and efforts.
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asked Dec 2 '18 at 16:18
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you just need to check $i_{x_i}^{-1}(O)$ is open when $O$ is of the form $Utimes V$ for $U$ open in $X$ and $V$ open in $Y$ (since such sets form a basis for the product topology). And $i_{x_1}^{-1}(Utimes V) = emptyset$ if $x_1 not in U$ and $V$ if $x_1 in U$.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 16:21
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you just need to check $i_{x_i}^{-1}(O)$ is open when $O$ is of the form $Utimes V$ for $U$ open in $X$ and $V$ open in $Y$ (since such sets form a basis for the product topology). And $i_{x_1}^{-1}(Utimes V) = emptyset$ if $x_1 not in U$ and $V$ if $x_1 in U$.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 16:21
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you just need to check $i_{x_i}^{-1}(O)$ is open when $O$ is of the form $Utimes V$ for $U$ open in $X$ and $V$ open in $Y$ (since such sets form a basis for the product topology). And $i_{x_1}^{-1}(Utimes V) = emptyset$ if $x_1 not in U$ and $V$ if $x_1 in U$.
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– mathworker21
Dec 2 '18 at 16:21
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you just need to check $i_{x_i}^{-1}(O)$ is open when $O$ is of the form $Utimes V$ for $U$ open in $X$ and $V$ open in $Y$ (since such sets form a basis for the product topology). And $i_{x_1}^{-1}(Utimes V) = emptyset$ if $x_1 not in U$ and $V$ if $x_1 in U$.
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A function $f : X to Y times Z$ is continuous iff $pi_Y circ f$ and $pi_Z circ f$ are both continuous. (univeral property of continuity of maps into products).
In our case:
$pi_Ycirc i_{x_1} = mathrm{id}_Y$ (the identity) and $pi_X circ i_{x_1} = c_{x_1}$ (a constant map) and both identities and constant maps are always continuous. Hence so is $i_{x_1}$.
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Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
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@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
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One coordinate function is constant, the other is the identity. Both continuous. Since the product topology is the coarsest which makes the projections onto the coordinates continuous, we have the universal property @Henno refers to, and the map is continuous.
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A function $f : X to Y times Z$ is continuous iff $pi_Y circ f$ and $pi_Z circ f$ are both continuous. (univeral property of continuity of maps into products).
In our case:
$pi_Ycirc i_{x_1} = mathrm{id}_Y$ (the identity) and $pi_X circ i_{x_1} = c_{x_1}$ (a constant map) and both identities and constant maps are always continuous. Hence so is $i_{x_1}$.
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Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
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@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A function $f : X to Y times Z$ is continuous iff $pi_Y circ f$ and $pi_Z circ f$ are both continuous. (univeral property of continuity of maps into products).
In our case:
$pi_Ycirc i_{x_1} = mathrm{id}_Y$ (the identity) and $pi_X circ i_{x_1} = c_{x_1}$ (a constant map) and both identities and constant maps are always continuous. Hence so is $i_{x_1}$.
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Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
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@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
add a comment |
$begingroup$
A function $f : X to Y times Z$ is continuous iff $pi_Y circ f$ and $pi_Z circ f$ are both continuous. (univeral property of continuity of maps into products).
In our case:
$pi_Ycirc i_{x_1} = mathrm{id}_Y$ (the identity) and $pi_X circ i_{x_1} = c_{x_1}$ (a constant map) and both identities and constant maps are always continuous. Hence so is $i_{x_1}$.
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A function $f : X to Y times Z$ is continuous iff $pi_Y circ f$ and $pi_Z circ f$ are both continuous. (univeral property of continuity of maps into products).
In our case:
$pi_Ycirc i_{x_1} = mathrm{id}_Y$ (the identity) and $pi_X circ i_{x_1} = c_{x_1}$ (a constant map) and both identities and constant maps are always continuous. Hence so is $i_{x_1}$.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 16:29
Henno BrandsmaHenno Brandsma
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Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
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@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
add a comment |
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Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
$endgroup$
– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
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@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
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Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
$endgroup$
– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
$begingroup$
Thank you; this wasn't an explicit theorem in my book, so I'm glad I asked.
$endgroup$
– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:53
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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@StevenWagter what book are you using then?
$endgroup$
– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:55
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
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– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
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Bert Mendelson's introduction to topology; I just saw it was one of the exercises which I haven't done yet though.
$endgroup$
– Steven Wagter
Dec 4 '18 at 8:56
$begingroup$
@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
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@StevenWagter it’s a very handy fact to know about maps into products so do that exercise too. There are solutions on this site already and it’s shown in other standard texts like Munkres.
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– Henno Brandsma
Dec 4 '18 at 8:58
add a comment |
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One coordinate function is constant, the other is the identity. Both continuous. Since the product topology is the coarsest which makes the projections onto the coordinates continuous, we have the universal property @Henno refers to, and the map is continuous.
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One coordinate function is constant, the other is the identity. Both continuous. Since the product topology is the coarsest which makes the projections onto the coordinates continuous, we have the universal property @Henno refers to, and the map is continuous.
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One coordinate function is constant, the other is the identity. Both continuous. Since the product topology is the coarsest which makes the projections onto the coordinates continuous, we have the universal property @Henno refers to, and the map is continuous.
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One coordinate function is constant, the other is the identity. Both continuous. Since the product topology is the coarsest which makes the projections onto the coordinates continuous, we have the universal property @Henno refers to, and the map is continuous.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 16:40
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you just need to check $i_{x_i}^{-1}(O)$ is open when $O$ is of the form $Utimes V$ for $U$ open in $X$ and $V$ open in $Y$ (since such sets form a basis for the product topology). And $i_{x_1}^{-1}(Utimes V) = emptyset$ if $x_1 not in U$ and $V$ if $x_1 in U$.
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