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The following statement is Exercise I.26 in K. Davidson's book C-Algebras by Example*:




Let $mathfrak{A}$ be a C*-algebra, $mathfrak{J}$ be an (two-sided
and closed) ideal of $mathfrak{A}$ and $A in mathfrak{A}$. Then
there exists $J in mathfrak{J}$ such that $|A - J| = |A + mathfrak{J}|$.




The book gives a hint of applying the Jordan decomposition (Corollary I.4.2 in the book) of the element $|A|-|A+mathfrak{J}|I$. But I don't see how to proceed from here. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!










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    Note also that this is a lifting problem: If $pi colon A twoheadrightarrow B$ is surjective and $b in B$, there exists $a in A$ with $lVert a rVert = lVert b rVert$ and $pi(a) = b$.
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The following statement is Exercise I.26 in K. Davidson's book C-Algebras by Example*:




Let $mathfrak{A}$ be a C*-algebra, $mathfrak{J}$ be an (two-sided
and closed) ideal of $mathfrak{A}$ and $A in mathfrak{A}$. Then
there exists $J in mathfrak{J}$ such that $|A - J| = |A + mathfrak{J}|$.




The book gives a hint of applying the Jordan decomposition (Corollary I.4.2 in the book) of the element $|A|-|A+mathfrak{J}|I$. But I don't see how to proceed from here. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!










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    Note also that this is a lifting problem: If $pi colon A twoheadrightarrow B$ is surjective and $b in B$, there exists $a in A$ with $lVert a rVert = lVert b rVert$ and $pi(a) = b$.
    – André S.
    Nov 14 at 7:42















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The following statement is Exercise I.26 in K. Davidson's book C-Algebras by Example*:




Let $mathfrak{A}$ be a C*-algebra, $mathfrak{J}$ be an (two-sided
and closed) ideal of $mathfrak{A}$ and $A in mathfrak{A}$. Then
there exists $J in mathfrak{J}$ such that $|A - J| = |A + mathfrak{J}|$.




The book gives a hint of applying the Jordan decomposition (Corollary I.4.2 in the book) of the element $|A|-|A+mathfrak{J}|I$. But I don't see how to proceed from here. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!










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The following statement is Exercise I.26 in K. Davidson's book C-Algebras by Example*:




Let $mathfrak{A}$ be a C*-algebra, $mathfrak{J}$ be an (two-sided
and closed) ideal of $mathfrak{A}$ and $A in mathfrak{A}$. Then
there exists $J in mathfrak{J}$ such that $|A - J| = |A + mathfrak{J}|$.




The book gives a hint of applying the Jordan decomposition (Corollary I.4.2 in the book) of the element $|A|-|A+mathfrak{J}|I$. But I don't see how to proceed from here. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!







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    Note also that this is a lifting problem: If $pi colon A twoheadrightarrow B$ is surjective and $b in B$, there exists $a in A$ with $lVert a rVert = lVert b rVert$ and $pi(a) = b$.
    – André S.
    Nov 14 at 7:42
















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    Note also that this is a lifting problem: If $pi colon A twoheadrightarrow B$ is surjective and $b in B$, there exists $a in A$ with $lVert a rVert = lVert b rVert$ and $pi(a) = b$.
    – André S.
    Nov 14 at 7:42










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Note also that this is a lifting problem: If $pi colon A twoheadrightarrow B$ is surjective and $b in B$, there exists $a in A$ with $lVert a rVert = lVert b rVert$ and $pi(a) = b$.
– André S.
Nov 14 at 7:42






Note also that this is a lifting problem: If $pi colon A twoheadrightarrow B$ is surjective and $b in B$, there exists $a in A$ with $lVert a rVert = lVert b rVert$ and $pi(a) = b$.
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Here is a proof without using the hint.



It suffices to prove the following statement: If $pi:A to B$ is a surjective *-homomorphism between $C^*$-algebras and $y in B$, then there exists $x in A$ such that $pi(x)=y$ and $|x|=|y|$. Also, we just need to prove the statement when $|y|=1$.



Special Case: $underline{y=y^* quad and quad |y|=1}\$



Since $pi$ is surjective, there exists $a in A$ such that $pi(a)=y$. Replacing $a$ by $frac{a+a^*}{2}$, we may assume in addition that $a=a^*$.



Let $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be the continuous function defined by
begin{equation*}
f(t)=
begin{cases}
t &text{ , if } quad |t| leq 1 \
frac{t}{|t|} &text{ , if} quad |t| >1
end{cases}
end{equation*}



Let $x=f(a)$. Then $|x| leq |f|_infty leq 1$ and $pi(x)=pi(f(a))=f(pi(a))=f(y)=y$. The last equation holds because $sigma(y) subseteq [-1,1]$ and $f(t)=t $ for all $t in [-1,1]$.



General Case:$underline{|y|=1} \$



Let
begin{gather}
Y=
begin{pmatrix}
0 & y\
y^* & 0 \
end{pmatrix}.
end{gather}

Then $|Y|=max{|y|,|y^*| }=1$ and $Y=Y^*$. Apply the special case to the surjective *-homomorphism $pi_2:M_2( A) to M_2(B)$ given by
begin{gather}
pi_2
begin{pmatrix}
x_{11} & x_{12}\
x_{21} & x_{22} \
end{pmatrix}
=
begin{pmatrix}
pi(x_{11}) & pi(x_{12})\
pi(x_{21}) & pi(x_{22}) \
end{pmatrix}.
end{gather}

and $Y$, there exists $X in M_2(A)$ such that $|X| leq 1$ and $pi_2(X)=Y$. Let $x in A$ be the $(1,2)$-entry of X. Then $|x| leq |X| leq 1$ and $pi(x)=y$.



Since $pi$ is norm-decreasing, $1=|y| =|pi(x)|leq |x|$. This completes the proof.






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    Here is a proof without using the hint.



    It suffices to prove the following statement: If $pi:A to B$ is a surjective *-homomorphism between $C^*$-algebras and $y in B$, then there exists $x in A$ such that $pi(x)=y$ and $|x|=|y|$. Also, we just need to prove the statement when $|y|=1$.



    Special Case: $underline{y=y^* quad and quad |y|=1}\$



    Since $pi$ is surjective, there exists $a in A$ such that $pi(a)=y$. Replacing $a$ by $frac{a+a^*}{2}$, we may assume in addition that $a=a^*$.



    Let $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be the continuous function defined by
    begin{equation*}
    f(t)=
    begin{cases}
    t &text{ , if } quad |t| leq 1 \
    frac{t}{|t|} &text{ , if} quad |t| >1
    end{cases}
    end{equation*}



    Let $x=f(a)$. Then $|x| leq |f|_infty leq 1$ and $pi(x)=pi(f(a))=f(pi(a))=f(y)=y$. The last equation holds because $sigma(y) subseteq [-1,1]$ and $f(t)=t $ for all $t in [-1,1]$.



    General Case:$underline{|y|=1} \$



    Let
    begin{gather}
    Y=
    begin{pmatrix}
    0 & y\
    y^* & 0 \
    end{pmatrix}.
    end{gather}

    Then $|Y|=max{|y|,|y^*| }=1$ and $Y=Y^*$. Apply the special case to the surjective *-homomorphism $pi_2:M_2( A) to M_2(B)$ given by
    begin{gather}
    pi_2
    begin{pmatrix}
    x_{11} & x_{12}\
    x_{21} & x_{22} \
    end{pmatrix}
    =
    begin{pmatrix}
    pi(x_{11}) & pi(x_{12})\
    pi(x_{21}) & pi(x_{22}) \
    end{pmatrix}.
    end{gather}

    and $Y$, there exists $X in M_2(A)$ such that $|X| leq 1$ and $pi_2(X)=Y$. Let $x in A$ be the $(1,2)$-entry of X. Then $|x| leq |X| leq 1$ and $pi(x)=y$.



    Since $pi$ is norm-decreasing, $1=|y| =|pi(x)|leq |x|$. This completes the proof.






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      Here is a proof without using the hint.



      It suffices to prove the following statement: If $pi:A to B$ is a surjective *-homomorphism between $C^*$-algebras and $y in B$, then there exists $x in A$ such that $pi(x)=y$ and $|x|=|y|$. Also, we just need to prove the statement when $|y|=1$.



      Special Case: $underline{y=y^* quad and quad |y|=1}\$



      Since $pi$ is surjective, there exists $a in A$ such that $pi(a)=y$. Replacing $a$ by $frac{a+a^*}{2}$, we may assume in addition that $a=a^*$.



      Let $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be the continuous function defined by
      begin{equation*}
      f(t)=
      begin{cases}
      t &text{ , if } quad |t| leq 1 \
      frac{t}{|t|} &text{ , if} quad |t| >1
      end{cases}
      end{equation*}



      Let $x=f(a)$. Then $|x| leq |f|_infty leq 1$ and $pi(x)=pi(f(a))=f(pi(a))=f(y)=y$. The last equation holds because $sigma(y) subseteq [-1,1]$ and $f(t)=t $ for all $t in [-1,1]$.



      General Case:$underline{|y|=1} \$



      Let
      begin{gather}
      Y=
      begin{pmatrix}
      0 & y\
      y^* & 0 \
      end{pmatrix}.
      end{gather}

      Then $|Y|=max{|y|,|y^*| }=1$ and $Y=Y^*$. Apply the special case to the surjective *-homomorphism $pi_2:M_2( A) to M_2(B)$ given by
      begin{gather}
      pi_2
      begin{pmatrix}
      x_{11} & x_{12}\
      x_{21} & x_{22} \
      end{pmatrix}
      =
      begin{pmatrix}
      pi(x_{11}) & pi(x_{12})\
      pi(x_{21}) & pi(x_{22}) \
      end{pmatrix}.
      end{gather}

      and $Y$, there exists $X in M_2(A)$ such that $|X| leq 1$ and $pi_2(X)=Y$. Let $x in A$ be the $(1,2)$-entry of X. Then $|x| leq |X| leq 1$ and $pi(x)=y$.



      Since $pi$ is norm-decreasing, $1=|y| =|pi(x)|leq |x|$. This completes the proof.






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        Here is a proof without using the hint.



        It suffices to prove the following statement: If $pi:A to B$ is a surjective *-homomorphism between $C^*$-algebras and $y in B$, then there exists $x in A$ such that $pi(x)=y$ and $|x|=|y|$. Also, we just need to prove the statement when $|y|=1$.



        Special Case: $underline{y=y^* quad and quad |y|=1}\$



        Since $pi$ is surjective, there exists $a in A$ such that $pi(a)=y$. Replacing $a$ by $frac{a+a^*}{2}$, we may assume in addition that $a=a^*$.



        Let $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be the continuous function defined by
        begin{equation*}
        f(t)=
        begin{cases}
        t &text{ , if } quad |t| leq 1 \
        frac{t}{|t|} &text{ , if} quad |t| >1
        end{cases}
        end{equation*}



        Let $x=f(a)$. Then $|x| leq |f|_infty leq 1$ and $pi(x)=pi(f(a))=f(pi(a))=f(y)=y$. The last equation holds because $sigma(y) subseteq [-1,1]$ and $f(t)=t $ for all $t in [-1,1]$.



        General Case:$underline{|y|=1} \$



        Let
        begin{gather}
        Y=
        begin{pmatrix}
        0 & y\
        y^* & 0 \
        end{pmatrix}.
        end{gather}

        Then $|Y|=max{|y|,|y^*| }=1$ and $Y=Y^*$. Apply the special case to the surjective *-homomorphism $pi_2:M_2( A) to M_2(B)$ given by
        begin{gather}
        pi_2
        begin{pmatrix}
        x_{11} & x_{12}\
        x_{21} & x_{22} \
        end{pmatrix}
        =
        begin{pmatrix}
        pi(x_{11}) & pi(x_{12})\
        pi(x_{21}) & pi(x_{22}) \
        end{pmatrix}.
        end{gather}

        and $Y$, there exists $X in M_2(A)$ such that $|X| leq 1$ and $pi_2(X)=Y$. Let $x in A$ be the $(1,2)$-entry of X. Then $|x| leq |X| leq 1$ and $pi(x)=y$.



        Since $pi$ is norm-decreasing, $1=|y| =|pi(x)|leq |x|$. This completes the proof.






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        Here is a proof without using the hint.



        It suffices to prove the following statement: If $pi:A to B$ is a surjective *-homomorphism between $C^*$-algebras and $y in B$, then there exists $x in A$ such that $pi(x)=y$ and $|x|=|y|$. Also, we just need to prove the statement when $|y|=1$.



        Special Case: $underline{y=y^* quad and quad |y|=1}\$



        Since $pi$ is surjective, there exists $a in A$ such that $pi(a)=y$. Replacing $a$ by $frac{a+a^*}{2}$, we may assume in addition that $a=a^*$.



        Let $f: mathbb{R} to mathbb{R}$ be the continuous function defined by
        begin{equation*}
        f(t)=
        begin{cases}
        t &text{ , if } quad |t| leq 1 \
        frac{t}{|t|} &text{ , if} quad |t| >1
        end{cases}
        end{equation*}



        Let $x=f(a)$. Then $|x| leq |f|_infty leq 1$ and $pi(x)=pi(f(a))=f(pi(a))=f(y)=y$. The last equation holds because $sigma(y) subseteq [-1,1]$ and $f(t)=t $ for all $t in [-1,1]$.



        General Case:$underline{|y|=1} \$



        Let
        begin{gather}
        Y=
        begin{pmatrix}
        0 & y\
        y^* & 0 \
        end{pmatrix}.
        end{gather}

        Then $|Y|=max{|y|,|y^*| }=1$ and $Y=Y^*$. Apply the special case to the surjective *-homomorphism $pi_2:M_2( A) to M_2(B)$ given by
        begin{gather}
        pi_2
        begin{pmatrix}
        x_{11} & x_{12}\
        x_{21} & x_{22} \
        end{pmatrix}
        =
        begin{pmatrix}
        pi(x_{11}) & pi(x_{12})\
        pi(x_{21}) & pi(x_{22}) \
        end{pmatrix}.
        end{gather}

        and $Y$, there exists $X in M_2(A)$ such that $|X| leq 1$ and $pi_2(X)=Y$. Let $x in A$ be the $(1,2)$-entry of X. Then $|x| leq |X| leq 1$ and $pi(x)=y$.



        Since $pi$ is norm-decreasing, $1=|y| =|pi(x)|leq |x|$. This completes the proof.







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