Trying to parse a Putnam solution from 1995
I’m having trouble parsing the solution for the 1995 Putnam, question A2. The proof proceeds:
The easiest proof uses
``big-O'' notation and the fact that $(1+x)^{1/2} = 1 + x/2 +
O(x^{2})$ for $|x|<1$. (Here $O(x^{2})$ means bounded by a constant
times $x^{2}$.) Me: That’s all well and good, and I can arrive at that by the generalized binomial theorem.
The proof continues:
begin{align*}
sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x} &= x^{1/2}(sqrt{1+a/x} - 1) \
&= x^{1/2}(1 + a/2x + O(x^{-2})),
end{align*}
It would appear that’s an error; it would appear the proof writer dropped the minus 1.
But it continues, hence
$sqrt{sqrt{x+a} - sqrt{x}} = x^{1/4} (a/4x + O(x^{-2}))$
Which I’m at a loss how to arrive at.
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I’m having trouble parsing the solution for the 1995 Putnam, question A2. The proof proceeds:
The easiest proof uses
``big-O'' notation and the fact that $(1+x)^{1/2} = 1 + x/2 +
O(x^{2})$ for $|x|<1$. (Here $O(x^{2})$ means bounded by a constant
times $x^{2}$.) Me: That’s all well and good, and I can arrive at that by the generalized binomial theorem.
The proof continues:
begin{align*}
sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x} &= x^{1/2}(sqrt{1+a/x} - 1) \
&= x^{1/2}(1 + a/2x + O(x^{-2})),
end{align*}
It would appear that’s an error; it would appear the proof writer dropped the minus 1.
But it continues, hence
$sqrt{sqrt{x+a} - sqrt{x}} = x^{1/4} (a/4x + O(x^{-2}))$
Which I’m at a loss how to arrive at.
binomial-theorem
asked 3 hours ago
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For what it’s worth, you aren’t the first person to have asked about this. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2020837/…
– Steve Kass
3 hours ago
I am not sure if you have copied things properly. Why do we have $O(x^{2})$ in one place and $O(x^{-2})$ at others?
– Kavi Rama Murthy
3 hours ago
Note that on the right side of the first equation, x is in the denominator, whereas at the top, x is in the numerator.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
@KaviRamaMurthy Not OP, but that is because the new "$x$" is now $a/x$, so when you substitute that in $O(x^2)$ becomes $O(a^2/x^2)$, which is the same as $O(x^{-2})$
– Noble Mushtak
3 hours ago
You should show the question. I looked up the reference and it doesn't appear to be what you want. Also, where is the proof that you refer to?
– herb steinberg
3 hours ago
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I’m having trouble parsing the solution for the 1995 Putnam, question A2. The proof proceeds:
The easiest proof uses
``big-O'' notation and the fact that $(1+x)^{1/2} = 1 + x/2 +
O(x^{2})$ for $|x|<1$. (Here $O(x^{2})$ means bounded by a constant
times $x^{2}$.) Me: That’s all well and good, and I can arrive at that by the generalized binomial theorem.
The proof continues:
begin{align*}
sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x} &= x^{1/2}(sqrt{1+a/x} - 1) \
&= x^{1/2}(1 + a/2x + O(x^{-2})),
end{align*}
It would appear that’s an error; it would appear the proof writer dropped the minus 1.
But it continues, hence
$sqrt{sqrt{x+a} - sqrt{x}} = x^{1/4} (a/4x + O(x^{-2}))$
Which I’m at a loss how to arrive at.
binomial-theorem
asked 3 hours ago
Thor Kamphefner
365
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Thor Kamphefner is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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I’m having trouble parsing the solution for the 1995 Putnam, question A2. The proof proceeds:
The easiest proof uses
``big-O'' notation and the fact that $(1+x)^{1/2} = 1 + x/2 +
O(x^{2})$ for $|x|<1$. (Here $O(x^{2})$ means bounded by a constant
times $x^{2}$.) Me: That’s all well and good, and I can arrive at that by the generalized binomial theorem.
The proof continues:
begin{align*}
sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x} &= x^{1/2}(sqrt{1+a/x} - 1) \
&= x^{1/2}(1 + a/2x + O(x^{-2})),
end{align*}
It would appear that’s an error; it would appear the proof writer dropped the minus 1.
But it continues, hence
$sqrt{sqrt{x+a} - sqrt{x}} = x^{1/4} (a/4x + O(x^{-2}))$
Which I’m at a loss how to arrive at.
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For what it’s worth, you aren’t the first person to have asked about this. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2020837/…
– Steve Kass
3 hours ago
I am not sure if you have copied things properly. Why do we have $O(x^{2})$ in one place and $O(x^{-2})$ at others?
– Kavi Rama Murthy
3 hours ago
Note that on the right side of the first equation, x is in the denominator, whereas at the top, x is in the numerator.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
@KaviRamaMurthy Not OP, but that is because the new "$x$" is now $a/x$, so when you substitute that in $O(x^2)$ becomes $O(a^2/x^2)$, which is the same as $O(x^{-2})$
– Noble Mushtak
3 hours ago
You should show the question. I looked up the reference and it doesn't appear to be what you want. Also, where is the proof that you refer to?
– herb steinberg
3 hours ago
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For what it’s worth, you aren’t the first person to have asked about this. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2020837/…
– Steve Kass
3 hours ago
I am not sure if you have copied things properly. Why do we have $O(x^{2})$ in one place and $O(x^{-2})$ at others?
– Kavi Rama Murthy
3 hours ago
Note that on the right side of the first equation, x is in the denominator, whereas at the top, x is in the numerator.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
@KaviRamaMurthy Not OP, but that is because the new "$x$" is now $a/x$, so when you substitute that in $O(x^2)$ becomes $O(a^2/x^2)$, which is the same as $O(x^{-2})$
– Noble Mushtak
3 hours ago
You should show the question. I looked up the reference and it doesn't appear to be what you want. Also, where is the proof that you refer to?
– herb steinberg
3 hours ago
For what it’s worth, you aren’t the first person to have asked about this. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2020837/…
– Steve Kass
3 hours ago
For what it’s worth, you aren’t the first person to have asked about this. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2020837/…
– Steve Kass
3 hours ago
I am not sure if you have copied things properly. Why do we have $O(x^{2})$ in one place and $O(x^{-2})$ at others?
– Kavi Rama Murthy
3 hours ago
I am not sure if you have copied things properly. Why do we have $O(x^{2})$ in one place and $O(x^{-2})$ at others?
– Kavi Rama Murthy
3 hours ago
Note that on the right side of the first equation, x is in the denominator, whereas at the top, x is in the numerator.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
Note that on the right side of the first equation, x is in the denominator, whereas at the top, x is in the numerator.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
@KaviRamaMurthy Not OP, but that is because the new "$x$" is now $a/x$, so when you substitute that in $O(x^2)$ becomes $O(a^2/x^2)$, which is the same as $O(x^{-2})$
– Noble Mushtak
3 hours ago
@KaviRamaMurthy Not OP, but that is because the new "$x$" is now $a/x$, so when you substitute that in $O(x^2)$ becomes $O(a^2/x^2)$, which is the same as $O(x^{-2})$
– Noble Mushtak
3 hours ago
You should show the question. I looked up the reference and it doesn't appear to be what you want. Also, where is the proof that you refer to?
– herb steinberg
3 hours ago
You should show the question. I looked up the reference and it doesn't appear to be what you want. Also, where is the proof that you refer to?
– herb steinberg
3 hours ago
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OK, so the first step is clearly a mistake with them dropping the $-1$. However, I'm going to try to explain what they may have done, even though it doesn't make sense. First, let's start with their (albeit wrong) equation:
$$sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}=x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Now, take the square root:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=[x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Distribute the exponent:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}[(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Now, the second expression on the right is in the form of $(1+z)^{1/2}$, so I will use the following formula:
$$(1+z)^{1/2}=1+frac z 2+O(z^2)rightarrow \ (1+frac a{2x}+O(x^{-2}))^{1/2}=1+frac{a}{4x}+frac{1}{2}O(x^{-2})+O(frac{a^2}{4x^2})=1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})$$
Thus, we get:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Oh, and remember that $-1$ we dropped in the first step? Let's try adding that back in here, because...why not?
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})-1)$$
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Thus, we get the same equation they did, and we only had to make two mathematical errors to get there!
answered 3 hours ago
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I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
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OK, so the first step is clearly a mistake with them dropping the $-1$. However, I'm going to try to explain what they may have done, even though it doesn't make sense. First, let's start with their (albeit wrong) equation:
$$sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}=x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Now, take the square root:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=[x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Distribute the exponent:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}[(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Now, the second expression on the right is in the form of $(1+z)^{1/2}$, so I will use the following formula:
$$(1+z)^{1/2}=1+frac z 2+O(z^2)rightarrow \ (1+frac a{2x}+O(x^{-2}))^{1/2}=1+frac{a}{4x}+frac{1}{2}O(x^{-2})+O(frac{a^2}{4x^2})=1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})$$
Thus, we get:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Oh, and remember that $-1$ we dropped in the first step? Let's try adding that back in here, because...why not?
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})-1)$$
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Thus, we get the same equation they did, and we only had to make two mathematical errors to get there!
answered 3 hours ago
Noble Mushtak
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I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
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OK, so the first step is clearly a mistake with them dropping the $-1$. However, I'm going to try to explain what they may have done, even though it doesn't make sense. First, let's start with their (albeit wrong) equation:
$$sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}=x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Now, take the square root:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=[x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Distribute the exponent:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}[(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Now, the second expression on the right is in the form of $(1+z)^{1/2}$, so I will use the following formula:
$$(1+z)^{1/2}=1+frac z 2+O(z^2)rightarrow \ (1+frac a{2x}+O(x^{-2}))^{1/2}=1+frac{a}{4x}+frac{1}{2}O(x^{-2})+O(frac{a^2}{4x^2})=1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})$$
Thus, we get:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Oh, and remember that $-1$ we dropped in the first step? Let's try adding that back in here, because...why not?
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})-1)$$
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Thus, we get the same equation they did, and we only had to make two mathematical errors to get there!
answered 3 hours ago
Noble Mushtak
14.3k1734
I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
add a comment |
OK, so the first step is clearly a mistake with them dropping the $-1$. However, I'm going to try to explain what they may have done, even though it doesn't make sense. First, let's start with their (albeit wrong) equation:
$$sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}=x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Now, take the square root:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=[x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Distribute the exponent:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}[(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Now, the second expression on the right is in the form of $(1+z)^{1/2}$, so I will use the following formula:
$$(1+z)^{1/2}=1+frac z 2+O(z^2)rightarrow \ (1+frac a{2x}+O(x^{-2}))^{1/2}=1+frac{a}{4x}+frac{1}{2}O(x^{-2})+O(frac{a^2}{4x^2})=1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})$$
Thus, we get:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Oh, and remember that $-1$ we dropped in the first step? Let's try adding that back in here, because...why not?
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})-1)$$
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Thus, we get the same equation they did, and we only had to make two mathematical errors to get there!
answered 3 hours ago
Noble Mushtak
14.3k1734
OK, so the first step is clearly a mistake with them dropping the $-1$. However, I'm going to try to explain what they may have done, even though it doesn't make sense. First, let's start with their (albeit wrong) equation:
$$sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}=x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Now, take the square root:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=[x^{1/2}(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Distribute the exponent:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}[(1+frac{a}{2x}+O(x^{-2}))]^{1/2}$$
Now, the second expression on the right is in the form of $(1+z)^{1/2}$, so I will use the following formula:
$$(1+z)^{1/2}=1+frac z 2+O(z^2)rightarrow \ (1+frac a{2x}+O(x^{-2}))^{1/2}=1+frac{a}{4x}+frac{1}{2}O(x^{-2})+O(frac{a^2}{4x^2})=1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})$$
Thus, we get:
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Oh, and remember that $-1$ we dropped in the first step? Let's try adding that back in here, because...why not?
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(1+frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2})-1)$$
$$sqrt{sqrt{x+a}-sqrt{x}}=x^{1/4}(frac{a}{4x}+O(x^{-2}))$$
Thus, we get the same equation they did, and we only had to make two mathematical errors to get there!
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I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
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I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
I like that you were able to decipher what the original proof writer most likely meant. Thank you for that.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
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For what it’s worth, you aren’t the first person to have asked about this. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2020837/…
– Steve Kass
3 hours ago
I am not sure if you have copied things properly. Why do we have $O(x^{2})$ in one place and $O(x^{-2})$ at others?
– Kavi Rama Murthy
3 hours ago
Note that on the right side of the first equation, x is in the denominator, whereas at the top, x is in the numerator.
– Thor Kamphefner
3 hours ago
@KaviRamaMurthy Not OP, but that is because the new "$x$" is now $a/x$, so when you substitute that in $O(x^2)$ becomes $O(a^2/x^2)$, which is the same as $O(x^{-2})$
– Noble Mushtak
3 hours ago
You should show the question. I looked up the reference and it doesn't appear to be what you want. Also, where is the proof that you refer to?
– herb steinberg
3 hours ago