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You can see real images without a screen. Just look through a converging lens. If what you see is upside-down, then you are seeing a real image.



You are only able to use a screen to show where a real image is because light rays physically converge to a point in space.



When you use a screen, the screen "sees" the real image just as if your eye was where the screen was$^*$. Then we see what is reflected from the screen.



For the plane mirror you are just seeing a reflection, just as if the "mirror image" of your world was placed behind where the mirror if located without the mirror actually being there. Seeing things in a mirror is essentially just like seeing things normally.




$^*$ This is neglecting the fact that your eye is also a lens, so in reality you don't want your eye to be exactly at the image.






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    I had practical class in which I could not see the real image until I put a screen there
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    @Monkyman If you had put your eye where the screen was you would have seen the real image. Screens are used to reflect that real image to your eyes.
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    but then for a virtual image on a plane mirror you need not put your eyes anywhere but you can still comfortably see the image . why is that so ? thanks for helping out
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    @AaronStevens With practice or the help of a translucent screen you can see a real image in mid air. The difficulty in seeing the image is that you have to focus on a region without any material reference points. Have a look at the link that I posted in my comment above.
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The mirror directs the reflected rays towards you so you see.



If you direct the rays from a lens towards you you will see the image.



So to see the image formed by an optical system the rays need to reach your eyes in some way.






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    This might help.
    Try focussing the sun with a convex mirror on your hand. You can not merely see it. You can feel it. That is a real image.
    You cannot catch a virtual image on a screen. You can catch a real image on a screen. (Just as you could do it on your hand.) It is a more convenient way to see a real image.
    I my school physics lab, we would use pointed needles to determine the distances. We have to adjust the position of the image pin to avoid parallax. When the room was a bit dusty we could actually see the real inverted image of the object pin from the side.






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      I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
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    You can see real images without a screen. Just look through a converging lens. If what you see is upside-down, then you are seeing a real image.



    You are only able to use a screen to show where a real image is because light rays physically converge to a point in space.



    When you use a screen, the screen "sees" the real image just as if your eye was where the screen was$^*$. Then we see what is reflected from the screen.



    For the plane mirror you are just seeing a reflection, just as if the "mirror image" of your world was placed behind where the mirror if located without the mirror actually being there. Seeing things in a mirror is essentially just like seeing things normally.




    $^*$ This is neglecting the fact that your eye is also a lens, so in reality you don't want your eye to be exactly at the image.






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      I had practical class in which I could not see the real image until I put a screen there
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      – Monkyman
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      @Monkyman If you had put your eye where the screen was you would have seen the real image. Screens are used to reflect that real image to your eyes.
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      but then for a virtual image on a plane mirror you need not put your eyes anywhere but you can still comfortably see the image . why is that so ? thanks for helping out
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      @AaronStevens With practice or the help of a translucent screen you can see a real image in mid air. The difficulty in seeing the image is that you have to focus on a region without any material reference points. Have a look at the link that I posted in my comment above.
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    You can see real images without a screen. Just look through a converging lens. If what you see is upside-down, then you are seeing a real image.



    You are only able to use a screen to show where a real image is because light rays physically converge to a point in space.



    When you use a screen, the screen "sees" the real image just as if your eye was where the screen was$^*$. Then we see what is reflected from the screen.



    For the plane mirror you are just seeing a reflection, just as if the "mirror image" of your world was placed behind where the mirror if located without the mirror actually being there. Seeing things in a mirror is essentially just like seeing things normally.




    $^*$ This is neglecting the fact that your eye is also a lens, so in reality you don't want your eye to be exactly at the image.






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      I had practical class in which I could not see the real image until I put a screen there
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      @Monkyman If you had put your eye where the screen was you would have seen the real image. Screens are used to reflect that real image to your eyes.
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      but then for a virtual image on a plane mirror you need not put your eyes anywhere but you can still comfortably see the image . why is that so ? thanks for helping out
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      @Monkyman I have added more about the plane mirror
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      – Aaron Stevens
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      @AaronStevens With practice or the help of a translucent screen you can see a real image in mid air. The difficulty in seeing the image is that you have to focus on a region without any material reference points. Have a look at the link that I posted in my comment above.
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    You can see real images without a screen. Just look through a converging lens. If what you see is upside-down, then you are seeing a real image.



    You are only able to use a screen to show where a real image is because light rays physically converge to a point in space.



    When you use a screen, the screen "sees" the real image just as if your eye was where the screen was$^*$. Then we see what is reflected from the screen.



    For the plane mirror you are just seeing a reflection, just as if the "mirror image" of your world was placed behind where the mirror if located without the mirror actually being there. Seeing things in a mirror is essentially just like seeing things normally.




    $^*$ This is neglecting the fact that your eye is also a lens, so in reality you don't want your eye to be exactly at the image.






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    You can see real images without a screen. Just look through a converging lens. If what you see is upside-down, then you are seeing a real image.



    You are only able to use a screen to show where a real image is because light rays physically converge to a point in space.



    When you use a screen, the screen "sees" the real image just as if your eye was where the screen was$^*$. Then we see what is reflected from the screen.



    For the plane mirror you are just seeing a reflection, just as if the "mirror image" of your world was placed behind where the mirror if located without the mirror actually being there. Seeing things in a mirror is essentially just like seeing things normally.




    $^*$ This is neglecting the fact that your eye is also a lens, so in reality you don't want your eye to be exactly at the image.







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      I had practical class in which I could not see the real image until I put a screen there
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      @Monkyman If you had put your eye where the screen was you would have seen the real image. Screens are used to reflect that real image to your eyes.
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      – Aaron Stevens
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      but then for a virtual image on a plane mirror you need not put your eyes anywhere but you can still comfortably see the image . why is that so ? thanks for helping out
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      @Monkyman I have added more about the plane mirror
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      – Aaron Stevens
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      @AaronStevens With practice or the help of a translucent screen you can see a real image in mid air. The difficulty in seeing the image is that you have to focus on a region without any material reference points. Have a look at the link that I posted in my comment above.
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      I had practical class in which I could not see the real image until I put a screen there
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      – Monkyman
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      @Monkyman If you had put your eye where the screen was you would have seen the real image. Screens are used to reflect that real image to your eyes.
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      – Aaron Stevens
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      but then for a virtual image on a plane mirror you need not put your eyes anywhere but you can still comfortably see the image . why is that so ? thanks for helping out
      $endgroup$
      – Monkyman
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      @Monkyman I have added more about the plane mirror
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      – Aaron Stevens
      Dec 30 '18 at 13:25






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      @AaronStevens With practice or the help of a translucent screen you can see a real image in mid air. The difficulty in seeing the image is that you have to focus on a region without any material reference points. Have a look at the link that I posted in my comment above.
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    $begingroup$
    @Monkyman If you had put your eye where the screen was you would have seen the real image. Screens are used to reflect that real image to your eyes.
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    but then for a virtual image on a plane mirror you need not put your eyes anywhere but you can still comfortably see the image . why is that so ? thanks for helping out
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    @AaronStevens With practice or the help of a translucent screen you can see a real image in mid air. The difficulty in seeing the image is that you have to focus on a region without any material reference points. Have a look at the link that I posted in my comment above.
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    The mirror directs the reflected rays towards you so you see.



    If you direct the rays from a lens towards you you will see the image.



    So to see the image formed by an optical system the rays need to reach your eyes in some way.






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      The mirror directs the reflected rays towards you so you see.



      If you direct the rays from a lens towards you you will see the image.



      So to see the image formed by an optical system the rays need to reach your eyes in some way.






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        The mirror directs the reflected rays towards you so you see.



        If you direct the rays from a lens towards you you will see the image.



        So to see the image formed by an optical system the rays need to reach your eyes in some way.






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        The mirror directs the reflected rays towards you so you see.



        If you direct the rays from a lens towards you you will see the image.



        So to see the image formed by an optical system the rays need to reach your eyes in some way.







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            This might help.
            Try focussing the sun with a convex mirror on your hand. You can not merely see it. You can feel it. That is a real image.
            You cannot catch a virtual image on a screen. You can catch a real image on a screen. (Just as you could do it on your hand.) It is a more convenient way to see a real image.
            I my school physics lab, we would use pointed needles to determine the distances. We have to adjust the position of the image pin to avoid parallax. When the room was a bit dusty we could actually see the real inverted image of the object pin from the side.






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              Your first experience is poorly described and could be dangerous depending on how it is understood. Please clarify, prove that it's safe or remove it.
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              I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
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            This might help.
            Try focussing the sun with a convex mirror on your hand. You can not merely see it. You can feel it. That is a real image.
            You cannot catch a virtual image on a screen. You can catch a real image on a screen. (Just as you could do it on your hand.) It is a more convenient way to see a real image.
            I my school physics lab, we would use pointed needles to determine the distances. We have to adjust the position of the image pin to avoid parallax. When the room was a bit dusty we could actually see the real inverted image of the object pin from the side.






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              Your first experience is poorly described and could be dangerous depending on how it is understood. Please clarify, prove that it's safe or remove it.
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              – Eric Duminil
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            • $begingroup$
              I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
              $endgroup$
              – Dr S T Lakshmikumar
              Dec 31 '18 at 13:05














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            This might help.
            Try focussing the sun with a convex mirror on your hand. You can not merely see it. You can feel it. That is a real image.
            You cannot catch a virtual image on a screen. You can catch a real image on a screen. (Just as you could do it on your hand.) It is a more convenient way to see a real image.
            I my school physics lab, we would use pointed needles to determine the distances. We have to adjust the position of the image pin to avoid parallax. When the room was a bit dusty we could actually see the real inverted image of the object pin from the side.






            share|cite|improve this answer









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            This might help.
            Try focussing the sun with a convex mirror on your hand. You can not merely see it. You can feel it. That is a real image.
            You cannot catch a virtual image on a screen. You can catch a real image on a screen. (Just as you could do it on your hand.) It is a more convenient way to see a real image.
            I my school physics lab, we would use pointed needles to determine the distances. We have to adjust the position of the image pin to avoid parallax. When the room was a bit dusty we could actually see the real inverted image of the object pin from the side.







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              Your first experience is poorly described and could be dangerous depending on how it is understood. Please clarify, prove that it's safe or remove it.
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            • $begingroup$
              I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
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              – Dr S T Lakshmikumar
              Dec 31 '18 at 13:05














            • 1




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              Your first experience is poorly described and could be dangerous depending on how it is understood. Please clarify, prove that it's safe or remove it.
              $endgroup$
              – Eric Duminil
              Dec 30 '18 at 19:07










            • $begingroup$
              I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
              $endgroup$
              – Dr S T Lakshmikumar
              Dec 31 '18 at 13:05








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            Your first experience is poorly described and could be dangerous depending on how it is understood. Please clarify, prove that it's safe or remove it.
            $endgroup$
            – Eric Duminil
            Dec 30 '18 at 19:07




            $begingroup$
            Your first experience is poorly described and could be dangerous depending on how it is understood. Please clarify, prove that it's safe or remove it.
            $endgroup$
            – Eric Duminil
            Dec 30 '18 at 19:07












            $begingroup$
            I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
            $endgroup$
            – Dr S T Lakshmikumar
            Dec 31 '18 at 13:05




            $begingroup$
            I fail to see what is so dangerous about using a convex lense to focus the sun into the skin. You would feel the heat and move the lense fast enough.
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            Plaza Victoria Plaza Victoria en 2017 Otros nombres Plaza de La Victoria Localización El Almendral, Valparaíso, Chile Vías adyacentes Chacabuco, Molina, Plaza Victoria y Edwards Creación 1841 Metro Bellavista Ubicación 33°02′46″S 71°37′11″O  /  -33.04624167, -71.61980833 Coordenadas: 33°02′46″S 71°37′11″O  /  -33.04624167, -71.61980833 [editar datos en Wikidata] La Plaza Victoria , también llamada Plaza de la Victoria , [ 1 ] ​ es una plaza ubicada en el sector El Almendral del plan de la ciudad de Valparaíso, Chile, de importancia patrimonial, que incluye valiosas estatuas y especies vegetales. [ 2 ] ​ La plaza se creó como tal en la primera mitad del siglo XIX, tomando previamente los nombres de Plaza Nueva y Plaza de Orrego . Si bien desde sus inicios tuvo relevancia histórica, no fue sino a partir de fines de los años 1860 cuando comenzó a cobrar mayor importancia y se convirtió en uno de los principales centros sociales de l...
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            Puebla de Zaragoza

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            Para otros usos de este término, véase Puebla (desambiguación). Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza Localidad De arriba a abajo de izquierda a derecha: Estrella de Puebla, Volcán Popocatépetl, Catedral de Puebla, Monumento a Ignacio Zaragoza, Estadio Cuauhtémoc, Angelópolis y Vista panorámica de la ciudad. Escudo Otros nombres: El relicario de América/ La ciudad de los Ángeles/ La Angelópolis Lema: Muy noble y muy leal ciudad de Puebla de los Ángeles Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza Localización de Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza en México Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza Localización de Heroica Puebla de Zaragoza en Puebla Mapa interactivo Coordenadas 19°03′05″N 98°13′04″O  /  19.051388888889, -98.217777777778 Coordenadas: 19°03′05″N 98°13′04″O  /  19.051388888889, -98.217777777778 Idioma oficial Español Entidad Localidad  • País   México  • Estado Puebla  • Municipio Puebla Presidente municipal Claudia Rivera Vivanc...
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            Musa

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            Para el género de plantas, véase Musa (planta). Apolo y la Nueve Musas En la mitología griega, las musas (en griego antiguo μοῦσαι « mousai» ) son, según los escritores más antiguos, las divinidades inspiradoras de las Artes: cada una de ellas está relacionada con ramas artísticas y del conocimiento. Son hijas de Zeus y de Mnemósine, compañeras del séquito de Apolo, dios olímpico de la música y patrón de las bellas artes, quien tuvo romances con cada una de ellas, dejando descendientes. Bajaban a la tierra a susurrar ideas e inspirar a aquellos mortales que las invocaran. En la época más arcaica eran las ninfas inspiradoras de las fuentes, en las cuales eran adoradas. Finalmente, alrededor de los siglos VIII-VII a. C. [ 1 ] ​ prevaleció en todo el territorio de la Hélade la adoración de las nueve Musas, que son Calíope, Clío, Erato, Euterpe, Melpómene, Polimnia, Talía, Terpsícore y Urania. El culto a las musas era originalmente de Tracia y Beocia, y fueron de vital impo...
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