For a non-Jew, is there a punishment for not observing the 7 Noahide Laws?












2















Are non-Jews punished for not keeping the 7 Noahide Laws?



If yes:




  • What would the judicial process look like? (ie would they need witnesses who warn/ witness the crime like Jews do)

  • What method of punishment would be administered?

  • Would they be punished for each of the 7, or are some more strict?










share|improve this question




















  • 1





    Is not one of the Seven Commandments to set up courts to judge those who do not obey the laws?

    – ezra
    Mar 28 at 5:18
















2















Are non-Jews punished for not keeping the 7 Noahide Laws?



If yes:




  • What would the judicial process look like? (ie would they need witnesses who warn/ witness the crime like Jews do)

  • What method of punishment would be administered?

  • Would they be punished for each of the 7, or are some more strict?










share|improve this question




















  • 1





    Is not one of the Seven Commandments to set up courts to judge those who do not obey the laws?

    – ezra
    Mar 28 at 5:18














2












2








2








Are non-Jews punished for not keeping the 7 Noahide Laws?



If yes:




  • What would the judicial process look like? (ie would they need witnesses who warn/ witness the crime like Jews do)

  • What method of punishment would be administered?

  • Would they be punished for each of the 7, or are some more strict?










share|improve this question
















Are non-Jews punished for not keeping the 7 Noahide Laws?



If yes:




  • What would the judicial process look like? (ie would they need witnesses who warn/ witness the crime like Jews do)

  • What method of punishment would be administered?

  • Would they be punished for each of the 7, or are some more strict?







noachide-laws noahidism






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited Mar 27 at 19:15







alicht

















asked Mar 27 at 19:09









alichtalicht

2,4201633




2,4201633








  • 1





    Is not one of the Seven Commandments to set up courts to judge those who do not obey the laws?

    – ezra
    Mar 28 at 5:18














  • 1





    Is not one of the Seven Commandments to set up courts to judge those who do not obey the laws?

    – ezra
    Mar 28 at 5:18








1




1





Is not one of the Seven Commandments to set up courts to judge those who do not obey the laws?

– ezra
Mar 28 at 5:18





Is not one of the Seven Commandments to set up courts to judge those who do not obey the laws?

– ezra
Mar 28 at 5:18










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















4














Yes, they are punishable for violating any of these seven mitzvos; none of them are more or less severe than the others. The punishment for each of them is decapitation (Rambam, Hilchos Melachim 9:14).



No warning is needed, but there needs to be at least one male witness and at least one male judge (ibid.). The judge can be either a Jew or a non-Jew (ibid. 10:11).



If he committed the violation in error, he's not punished. "Error" here means that he was unaware that the object is a forbidden one (for example, having relations with a woman under the impression that she's unmarried or is his own wife, when in fact she's married to someone else), but ignorance of the law is no excuse (ibid. 10:1).






share|improve this answer































    2














    Avodah Zara 2b Seems that nowadays they're not punished




    דתני רב יוסף (חבקוק ג, ו) עמד וימודד ארץ ראה ויתר גוים מאי ראה ראה ז' מצות שקבלו עליהן בני נח ולא קיימום כיון שלא קיימום עמד והתירן להן



    As Rav Yosef teaches: “He stands, and shakes the earth, He sees, and makes the nations tremble” (Habakkuk 3:6). What did God see? He saw the seven mitzvot that the descendants of Noah accepted upon themselves, and He saw that they did not fulfill them. Since they did not fulfill them, He arose and nullified for them.




    Rashi




    ראה ויתר גוים - נראה בעיניו וישר להתירן




    But if they do the mitzvot they have a praise as who must not to do and do, a littler praise (from the next Gemara)






    share|improve this answer


























    • I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

      – user15464
      Mar 27 at 23:44













    • Maybe that is the pshat

      – kouty
      Mar 28 at 1:25



















    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes








    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    4














    Yes, they are punishable for violating any of these seven mitzvos; none of them are more or less severe than the others. The punishment for each of them is decapitation (Rambam, Hilchos Melachim 9:14).



    No warning is needed, but there needs to be at least one male witness and at least one male judge (ibid.). The judge can be either a Jew or a non-Jew (ibid. 10:11).



    If he committed the violation in error, he's not punished. "Error" here means that he was unaware that the object is a forbidden one (for example, having relations with a woman under the impression that she's unmarried or is his own wife, when in fact she's married to someone else), but ignorance of the law is no excuse (ibid. 10:1).






    share|improve this answer




























      4














      Yes, they are punishable for violating any of these seven mitzvos; none of them are more or less severe than the others. The punishment for each of them is decapitation (Rambam, Hilchos Melachim 9:14).



      No warning is needed, but there needs to be at least one male witness and at least one male judge (ibid.). The judge can be either a Jew or a non-Jew (ibid. 10:11).



      If he committed the violation in error, he's not punished. "Error" here means that he was unaware that the object is a forbidden one (for example, having relations with a woman under the impression that she's unmarried or is his own wife, when in fact she's married to someone else), but ignorance of the law is no excuse (ibid. 10:1).






      share|improve this answer


























        4












        4








        4







        Yes, they are punishable for violating any of these seven mitzvos; none of them are more or less severe than the others. The punishment for each of them is decapitation (Rambam, Hilchos Melachim 9:14).



        No warning is needed, but there needs to be at least one male witness and at least one male judge (ibid.). The judge can be either a Jew or a non-Jew (ibid. 10:11).



        If he committed the violation in error, he's not punished. "Error" here means that he was unaware that the object is a forbidden one (for example, having relations with a woman under the impression that she's unmarried or is his own wife, when in fact she's married to someone else), but ignorance of the law is no excuse (ibid. 10:1).






        share|improve this answer













        Yes, they are punishable for violating any of these seven mitzvos; none of them are more or less severe than the others. The punishment for each of them is decapitation (Rambam, Hilchos Melachim 9:14).



        No warning is needed, but there needs to be at least one male witness and at least one male judge (ibid.). The judge can be either a Jew or a non-Jew (ibid. 10:11).



        If he committed the violation in error, he's not punished. "Error" here means that he was unaware that the object is a forbidden one (for example, having relations with a woman under the impression that she's unmarried or is his own wife, when in fact she's married to someone else), but ignorance of the law is no excuse (ibid. 10:1).







        share|improve this answer












        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer










        answered Mar 27 at 23:33









        MeirMeir

        1,480110




        1,480110























            2














            Avodah Zara 2b Seems that nowadays they're not punished




            דתני רב יוסף (חבקוק ג, ו) עמד וימודד ארץ ראה ויתר גוים מאי ראה ראה ז' מצות שקבלו עליהן בני נח ולא קיימום כיון שלא קיימום עמד והתירן להן



            As Rav Yosef teaches: “He stands, and shakes the earth, He sees, and makes the nations tremble” (Habakkuk 3:6). What did God see? He saw the seven mitzvot that the descendants of Noah accepted upon themselves, and He saw that they did not fulfill them. Since they did not fulfill them, He arose and nullified for them.




            Rashi




            ראה ויתר גוים - נראה בעיניו וישר להתירן




            But if they do the mitzvot they have a praise as who must not to do and do, a littler praise (from the next Gemara)






            share|improve this answer


























            • I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

              – user15464
              Mar 27 at 23:44













            • Maybe that is the pshat

              – kouty
              Mar 28 at 1:25
















            2














            Avodah Zara 2b Seems that nowadays they're not punished




            דתני רב יוסף (חבקוק ג, ו) עמד וימודד ארץ ראה ויתר גוים מאי ראה ראה ז' מצות שקבלו עליהן בני נח ולא קיימום כיון שלא קיימום עמד והתירן להן



            As Rav Yosef teaches: “He stands, and shakes the earth, He sees, and makes the nations tremble” (Habakkuk 3:6). What did God see? He saw the seven mitzvot that the descendants of Noah accepted upon themselves, and He saw that they did not fulfill them. Since they did not fulfill them, He arose and nullified for them.




            Rashi




            ראה ויתר גוים - נראה בעיניו וישר להתירן




            But if they do the mitzvot they have a praise as who must not to do and do, a littler praise (from the next Gemara)






            share|improve this answer


























            • I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

              – user15464
              Mar 27 at 23:44













            • Maybe that is the pshat

              – kouty
              Mar 28 at 1:25














            2












            2








            2







            Avodah Zara 2b Seems that nowadays they're not punished




            דתני רב יוסף (חבקוק ג, ו) עמד וימודד ארץ ראה ויתר גוים מאי ראה ראה ז' מצות שקבלו עליהן בני נח ולא קיימום כיון שלא קיימום עמד והתירן להן



            As Rav Yosef teaches: “He stands, and shakes the earth, He sees, and makes the nations tremble” (Habakkuk 3:6). What did God see? He saw the seven mitzvot that the descendants of Noah accepted upon themselves, and He saw that they did not fulfill them. Since they did not fulfill them, He arose and nullified for them.




            Rashi




            ראה ויתר גוים - נראה בעיניו וישר להתירן




            But if they do the mitzvot they have a praise as who must not to do and do, a littler praise (from the next Gemara)






            share|improve this answer















            Avodah Zara 2b Seems that nowadays they're not punished




            דתני רב יוסף (חבקוק ג, ו) עמד וימודד ארץ ראה ויתר גוים מאי ראה ראה ז' מצות שקבלו עליהן בני נח ולא קיימום כיון שלא קיימום עמד והתירן להן



            As Rav Yosef teaches: “He stands, and shakes the earth, He sees, and makes the nations tremble” (Habakkuk 3:6). What did God see? He saw the seven mitzvot that the descendants of Noah accepted upon themselves, and He saw that they did not fulfill them. Since they did not fulfill them, He arose and nullified for them.




            Rashi




            ראה ויתר גוים - נראה בעיניו וישר להתירן




            But if they do the mitzvot they have a praise as who must not to do and do, a littler praise (from the next Gemara)







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Mar 28 at 5:00

























            answered Mar 27 at 19:38









            koutykouty

            15.1k31946




            15.1k31946













            • I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

              – user15464
              Mar 27 at 23:44













            • Maybe that is the pshat

              – kouty
              Mar 28 at 1:25



















            • I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

              – user15464
              Mar 27 at 23:44













            • Maybe that is the pshat

              – kouty
              Mar 28 at 1:25

















            I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

            – user15464
            Mar 27 at 23:44







            I think this is referring to the general reality that punishment for not keeping Mitzvot led to their property being looted, but it is still incumbent on Gentiles to keep the Mitzvot as the Torah states. and it never changes a as the Rambam said ani maamin shelo tehei haTorah Muchlefes

            – user15464
            Mar 27 at 23:44















            Maybe that is the pshat

            – kouty
            Mar 28 at 1:25





            Maybe that is the pshat

            – kouty
            Mar 28 at 1:25



            Popular posts from this blog

            Plaza Victoria

            Puebla de Zaragoza

            Musa