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What is the limit:



$lim_{x to 0}sin(frac{1}{x})$?



I plotted this function on https://www.desmos.com/



And this was the result:



Quite an oscillation near the origin!



I searched the web for this function and it was straight forward stated as "The limit doesn't exist" without any theoretical proof. Could anyone provide a theoretical proof or something a bit more concrete?










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    Check out the definition of limit here tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfLimit.aspx You'll not be able to find a $delta$ for every $epsilon gt0$
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    Exercise: Find $x_nto0$ and $y_nto0$ such that $f(x_n)to1$ and $f(y_n)to-1$; conclude.
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    More hint: consider $a_n=frac{1}{2}pi+2npi$ with $f(1/a_n)$ and $b_n=frac{3}{2}pi + 2npi$ with $f(1/b_n)$.
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    @freakish Not a "hint" anymore, then. :-(
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What is the limit:



$lim_{x to 0}sin(frac{1}{x})$?



I plotted this function on https://www.desmos.com/



And this was the result:



Quite an oscillation near the origin!



I searched the web for this function and it was straight forward stated as "The limit doesn't exist" without any theoretical proof. Could anyone provide a theoretical proof or something a bit more concrete?










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    Check out the definition of limit here tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfLimit.aspx You'll not be able to find a $delta$ for every $epsilon gt0$
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    Exercise: Find $x_nto0$ and $y_nto0$ such that $f(x_n)to1$ and $f(y_n)to-1$; conclude.
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    More hint: consider $a_n=frac{1}{2}pi+2npi$ with $f(1/a_n)$ and $b_n=frac{3}{2}pi + 2npi$ with $f(1/b_n)$.
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    @freakish Not a "hint" anymore, then. :-(
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What is the limit:



$lim_{x to 0}sin(frac{1}{x})$?



I plotted this function on https://www.desmos.com/



And this was the result:



Quite an oscillation near the origin!



I searched the web for this function and it was straight forward stated as "The limit doesn't exist" without any theoretical proof. Could anyone provide a theoretical proof or something a bit more concrete?










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What is the limit:



$lim_{x to 0}sin(frac{1}{x})$?



I plotted this function on https://www.desmos.com/



And this was the result:



Quite an oscillation near the origin!



I searched the web for this function and it was straight forward stated as "The limit doesn't exist" without any theoretical proof. Could anyone provide a theoretical proof or something a bit more concrete?







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    Check out the definition of limit here tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfLimit.aspx You'll not be able to find a $delta$ for every $epsilon gt0$
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    Exercise: Find $x_nto0$ and $y_nto0$ such that $f(x_n)to1$ and $f(y_n)to-1$; conclude.
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    More hint: consider $a_n=frac{1}{2}pi+2npi$ with $f(1/a_n)$ and $b_n=frac{3}{2}pi + 2npi$ with $f(1/b_n)$.
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    @freakish Not a "hint" anymore, then. :-(
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    Check out the definition of limit here tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfLimit.aspx You'll not be able to find a $delta$ for every $epsilon gt0$
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    Exercise: Find $x_nto0$ and $y_nto0$ such that $f(x_n)to1$ and $f(y_n)to-1$; conclude.
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    – Did
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    More hint: consider $a_n=frac{1}{2}pi+2npi$ with $f(1/a_n)$ and $b_n=frac{3}{2}pi + 2npi$ with $f(1/b_n)$.
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    @freakish Not a "hint" anymore, then. :-(
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    Dec 14 '18 at 14:55








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Check out the definition of limit here tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfLimit.aspx You'll not be able to find a $delta$ for every $epsilon gt0$
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Check out the definition of limit here tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcI/DefnOfLimit.aspx You'll not be able to find a $delta$ for every $epsilon gt0$
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More hint: consider $a_n=frac{1}{2}pi+2npi$ with $f(1/a_n)$ and $b_n=frac{3}{2}pi + 2npi$ with $f(1/b_n)$.
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More hint: consider $a_n=frac{1}{2}pi+2npi$ with $f(1/a_n)$ and $b_n=frac{3}{2}pi + 2npi$ with $f(1/b_n)$.
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@freakish Not a "hint" anymore, then. :-(
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Suppose that $ell=lim_{Xto 0}sin(1/x)$. Using the definition of the limit with $varepsilon=1/2$, we get the existence of a positive $delta$ such that if $0lt leftlvert xrightrvertltdelta$, then $leftlvert sin(1/x)-ellrightrvertlt 1/2$.
In particular, if $0lt s,tlt delta$,
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leftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvert
leqslantleftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-ellrightrvert+leftlvert ell-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvertlt 1 $$

hence we reach a contradiction by choosing $$s=frac1{2pi n+pi/2}mbox{ and }t=frac1{2pi n-pi/2}$$
where $ngeqslant 1$ is such that $2pi n+pi/2>delta^{-1}$.






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    Recall that when a limit



    $$lim_{xto x_0} f(x)=L$$



    exists it is unique and it is the same for all the subsequences, that is



    $$forall x_n to x_0 implies f_n=f(x_n) to L$$



    Therefore to prove that a limit doesn't exist it suffices to show that at least two subsequences exist with different limit.



    In this case let consider



    $$x_n=frac2{pi n}to 0^+$$



    then



    $$sinleft(frac{1}{x_n}right)=sinleft(nfrac pi 2right)$$



    What can we conclude form here? (try for example with $n=4k$ and $n=4k+1$)






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      The reason is essentially because the function "oscillates infinitely back and forth and does not settle on a single point". If this does not satisfy you, we may prove this formally with the following theorem




      $lim_{xto c}f(x)=L$ if and only if, for every sequence $(x_n)inmathbb R$ tending to $c$, it is true that $(f(x_n))$ tends to $L$.




      This is sometimes known as the sequential criterion for the convergence of a function. But in our case, this condition means that the limit does not exist. This is because we can just pick two sequences: the first so that the sequence $(f(x_n))$ corresponds to the points at the "top" of the graph; i.e., $f(x_n)=1$ for all $n$. You can find an explicit formula if you wish. Similarly pick our second sequence so that $f(y_n)=-1$ for all $n$. If we make sure both sequences are, say, positive, and decreasing to $0$, then we now have two sequences converging to $0$, but giving a different limit: $1$ and $-1$ respectively. If the limit existed, then by the theorem, $1=-1$, which is obviously absurd. We are done.



      (BTW, if even this isn't rigorous enough for you, you can prove $(x_n),(y_n)to 0$ by the monotone convergence theorem, and that $(f(x_n))to1$, $(f(y_n))to-1$ by using the formal definition for the limit.)






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        I will use the property that for all $Ninmathbb{R}$ there exists $x,y>N$ such that $sin(x)=1$ and $sin(y)=-1$. If you also want a proof of this, just tell me.



        Assume for the contrary that $lim_{xto0}sin(frac1x)$ exists, so it equals some $Linmathbb{R}$. Then, by definition of the limit, for $varepsilon:=frac12>0$ we get some $delta>0$ such that for all $x$ with $|x|<delta$ we have $|sin(frac1x)-L|<varepsilon=frac12$. Now use the beforementioned property that for $N:=frac1{delta}$ there exist $x',y'>N$ such that $sin(x')=1$ and $sin(y')=-1$. Define $x:=frac1{x'}$ and $y:=frac1{y'}$. Then $|x|,|y|<delta$ and $sin(frac1x)=1$ and $sin(frac1y)=-1$. However, we then find by the triangle inequality $2=|(-1-L)-(1-L)|leq|sin(frac1y)-L|+|sin(frac1x)-L|<2varepsilon=1$. A contradiction.






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          Let’s look at half the limit: approaching from the right, say. Note that $1/xtoinfty$ as $xto 0^+$, so we may rewrite the limit as



          $$lim_{xto 0^+} sin(1/x) = lim_{xtoinfty} sin(x).$$



          Can you see why $sin(x)$ doesn’t have a limit in this case?






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          Suppose that $ell=lim_{Xto 0}sin(1/x)$. Using the definition of the limit with $varepsilon=1/2$, we get the existence of a positive $delta$ such that if $0lt leftlvert xrightrvertltdelta$, then $leftlvert sin(1/x)-ellrightrvertlt 1/2$.
          In particular, if $0lt s,tlt delta$,
          $$
          leftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvert
          leqslantleftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-ellrightrvert+leftlvert ell-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvertlt 1 $$

          hence we reach a contradiction by choosing $$s=frac1{2pi n+pi/2}mbox{ and }t=frac1{2pi n-pi/2}$$
          where $ngeqslant 1$ is such that $2pi n+pi/2>delta^{-1}$.






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            Suppose that $ell=lim_{Xto 0}sin(1/x)$. Using the definition of the limit with $varepsilon=1/2$, we get the existence of a positive $delta$ such that if $0lt leftlvert xrightrvertltdelta$, then $leftlvert sin(1/x)-ellrightrvertlt 1/2$.
            In particular, if $0lt s,tlt delta$,
            $$
            leftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvert
            leqslantleftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-ellrightrvert+leftlvert ell-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvertlt 1 $$

            hence we reach a contradiction by choosing $$s=frac1{2pi n+pi/2}mbox{ and }t=frac1{2pi n-pi/2}$$
            where $ngeqslant 1$ is such that $2pi n+pi/2>delta^{-1}$.






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              Suppose that $ell=lim_{Xto 0}sin(1/x)$. Using the definition of the limit with $varepsilon=1/2$, we get the existence of a positive $delta$ such that if $0lt leftlvert xrightrvertltdelta$, then $leftlvert sin(1/x)-ellrightrvertlt 1/2$.
              In particular, if $0lt s,tlt delta$,
              $$
              leftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvert
              leqslantleftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-ellrightrvert+leftlvert ell-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvertlt 1 $$

              hence we reach a contradiction by choosing $$s=frac1{2pi n+pi/2}mbox{ and }t=frac1{2pi n-pi/2}$$
              where $ngeqslant 1$ is such that $2pi n+pi/2>delta^{-1}$.






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              Suppose that $ell=lim_{Xto 0}sin(1/x)$. Using the definition of the limit with $varepsilon=1/2$, we get the existence of a positive $delta$ such that if $0lt leftlvert xrightrvertltdelta$, then $leftlvert sin(1/x)-ellrightrvertlt 1/2$.
              In particular, if $0lt s,tlt delta$,
              $$
              leftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvert
              leqslantleftlvert sinleft(frac1sright)-ellrightrvert+leftlvert ell-sinleft(frac1tright)rightrvertlt 1 $$

              hence we reach a contradiction by choosing $$s=frac1{2pi n+pi/2}mbox{ and }t=frac1{2pi n-pi/2}$$
              where $ngeqslant 1$ is such that $2pi n+pi/2>delta^{-1}$.







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                  Recall that when a limit



                  $$lim_{xto x_0} f(x)=L$$



                  exists it is unique and it is the same for all the subsequences, that is



                  $$forall x_n to x_0 implies f_n=f(x_n) to L$$



                  Therefore to prove that a limit doesn't exist it suffices to show that at least two subsequences exist with different limit.



                  In this case let consider



                  $$x_n=frac2{pi n}to 0^+$$



                  then



                  $$sinleft(frac{1}{x_n}right)=sinleft(nfrac pi 2right)$$



                  What can we conclude form here? (try for example with $n=4k$ and $n=4k+1$)






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                    Recall that when a limit



                    $$lim_{xto x_0} f(x)=L$$



                    exists it is unique and it is the same for all the subsequences, that is



                    $$forall x_n to x_0 implies f_n=f(x_n) to L$$



                    Therefore to prove that a limit doesn't exist it suffices to show that at least two subsequences exist with different limit.



                    In this case let consider



                    $$x_n=frac2{pi n}to 0^+$$



                    then



                    $$sinleft(frac{1}{x_n}right)=sinleft(nfrac pi 2right)$$



                    What can we conclude form here? (try for example with $n=4k$ and $n=4k+1$)






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                      Recall that when a limit



                      $$lim_{xto x_0} f(x)=L$$



                      exists it is unique and it is the same for all the subsequences, that is



                      $$forall x_n to x_0 implies f_n=f(x_n) to L$$



                      Therefore to prove that a limit doesn't exist it suffices to show that at least two subsequences exist with different limit.



                      In this case let consider



                      $$x_n=frac2{pi n}to 0^+$$



                      then



                      $$sinleft(frac{1}{x_n}right)=sinleft(nfrac pi 2right)$$



                      What can we conclude form here? (try for example with $n=4k$ and $n=4k+1$)






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                      Recall that when a limit



                      $$lim_{xto x_0} f(x)=L$$



                      exists it is unique and it is the same for all the subsequences, that is



                      $$forall x_n to x_0 implies f_n=f(x_n) to L$$



                      Therefore to prove that a limit doesn't exist it suffices to show that at least two subsequences exist with different limit.



                      In this case let consider



                      $$x_n=frac2{pi n}to 0^+$$



                      then



                      $$sinleft(frac{1}{x_n}right)=sinleft(nfrac pi 2right)$$



                      What can we conclude form here? (try for example with $n=4k$ and $n=4k+1$)







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                          The reason is essentially because the function "oscillates infinitely back and forth and does not settle on a single point". If this does not satisfy you, we may prove this formally with the following theorem




                          $lim_{xto c}f(x)=L$ if and only if, for every sequence $(x_n)inmathbb R$ tending to $c$, it is true that $(f(x_n))$ tends to $L$.




                          This is sometimes known as the sequential criterion for the convergence of a function. But in our case, this condition means that the limit does not exist. This is because we can just pick two sequences: the first so that the sequence $(f(x_n))$ corresponds to the points at the "top" of the graph; i.e., $f(x_n)=1$ for all $n$. You can find an explicit formula if you wish. Similarly pick our second sequence so that $f(y_n)=-1$ for all $n$. If we make sure both sequences are, say, positive, and decreasing to $0$, then we now have two sequences converging to $0$, but giving a different limit: $1$ and $-1$ respectively. If the limit existed, then by the theorem, $1=-1$, which is obviously absurd. We are done.



                          (BTW, if even this isn't rigorous enough for you, you can prove $(x_n),(y_n)to 0$ by the monotone convergence theorem, and that $(f(x_n))to1$, $(f(y_n))to-1$ by using the formal definition for the limit.)






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                            The reason is essentially because the function "oscillates infinitely back and forth and does not settle on a single point". If this does not satisfy you, we may prove this formally with the following theorem




                            $lim_{xto c}f(x)=L$ if and only if, for every sequence $(x_n)inmathbb R$ tending to $c$, it is true that $(f(x_n))$ tends to $L$.




                            This is sometimes known as the sequential criterion for the convergence of a function. But in our case, this condition means that the limit does not exist. This is because we can just pick two sequences: the first so that the sequence $(f(x_n))$ corresponds to the points at the "top" of the graph; i.e., $f(x_n)=1$ for all $n$. You can find an explicit formula if you wish. Similarly pick our second sequence so that $f(y_n)=-1$ for all $n$. If we make sure both sequences are, say, positive, and decreasing to $0$, then we now have two sequences converging to $0$, but giving a different limit: $1$ and $-1$ respectively. If the limit existed, then by the theorem, $1=-1$, which is obviously absurd. We are done.



                            (BTW, if even this isn't rigorous enough for you, you can prove $(x_n),(y_n)to 0$ by the monotone convergence theorem, and that $(f(x_n))to1$, $(f(y_n))to-1$ by using the formal definition for the limit.)






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                              The reason is essentially because the function "oscillates infinitely back and forth and does not settle on a single point". If this does not satisfy you, we may prove this formally with the following theorem




                              $lim_{xto c}f(x)=L$ if and only if, for every sequence $(x_n)inmathbb R$ tending to $c$, it is true that $(f(x_n))$ tends to $L$.




                              This is sometimes known as the sequential criterion for the convergence of a function. But in our case, this condition means that the limit does not exist. This is because we can just pick two sequences: the first so that the sequence $(f(x_n))$ corresponds to the points at the "top" of the graph; i.e., $f(x_n)=1$ for all $n$. You can find an explicit formula if you wish. Similarly pick our second sequence so that $f(y_n)=-1$ for all $n$. If we make sure both sequences are, say, positive, and decreasing to $0$, then we now have two sequences converging to $0$, but giving a different limit: $1$ and $-1$ respectively. If the limit existed, then by the theorem, $1=-1$, which is obviously absurd. We are done.



                              (BTW, if even this isn't rigorous enough for you, you can prove $(x_n),(y_n)to 0$ by the monotone convergence theorem, and that $(f(x_n))to1$, $(f(y_n))to-1$ by using the formal definition for the limit.)






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                              The reason is essentially because the function "oscillates infinitely back and forth and does not settle on a single point". If this does not satisfy you, we may prove this formally with the following theorem




                              $lim_{xto c}f(x)=L$ if and only if, for every sequence $(x_n)inmathbb R$ tending to $c$, it is true that $(f(x_n))$ tends to $L$.




                              This is sometimes known as the sequential criterion for the convergence of a function. But in our case, this condition means that the limit does not exist. This is because we can just pick two sequences: the first so that the sequence $(f(x_n))$ corresponds to the points at the "top" of the graph; i.e., $f(x_n)=1$ for all $n$. You can find an explicit formula if you wish. Similarly pick our second sequence so that $f(y_n)=-1$ for all $n$. If we make sure both sequences are, say, positive, and decreasing to $0$, then we now have two sequences converging to $0$, but giving a different limit: $1$ and $-1$ respectively. If the limit existed, then by the theorem, $1=-1$, which is obviously absurd. We are done.



                              (BTW, if even this isn't rigorous enough for you, you can prove $(x_n),(y_n)to 0$ by the monotone convergence theorem, and that $(f(x_n))to1$, $(f(y_n))to-1$ by using the formal definition for the limit.)







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                                  I will use the property that for all $Ninmathbb{R}$ there exists $x,y>N$ such that $sin(x)=1$ and $sin(y)=-1$. If you also want a proof of this, just tell me.



                                  Assume for the contrary that $lim_{xto0}sin(frac1x)$ exists, so it equals some $Linmathbb{R}$. Then, by definition of the limit, for $varepsilon:=frac12>0$ we get some $delta>0$ such that for all $x$ with $|x|<delta$ we have $|sin(frac1x)-L|<varepsilon=frac12$. Now use the beforementioned property that for $N:=frac1{delta}$ there exist $x',y'>N$ such that $sin(x')=1$ and $sin(y')=-1$. Define $x:=frac1{x'}$ and $y:=frac1{y'}$. Then $|x|,|y|<delta$ and $sin(frac1x)=1$ and $sin(frac1y)=-1$. However, we then find by the triangle inequality $2=|(-1-L)-(1-L)|leq|sin(frac1y)-L|+|sin(frac1x)-L|<2varepsilon=1$. A contradiction.






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                                    I will use the property that for all $Ninmathbb{R}$ there exists $x,y>N$ such that $sin(x)=1$ and $sin(y)=-1$. If you also want a proof of this, just tell me.



                                    Assume for the contrary that $lim_{xto0}sin(frac1x)$ exists, so it equals some $Linmathbb{R}$. Then, by definition of the limit, for $varepsilon:=frac12>0$ we get some $delta>0$ such that for all $x$ with $|x|<delta$ we have $|sin(frac1x)-L|<varepsilon=frac12$. Now use the beforementioned property that for $N:=frac1{delta}$ there exist $x',y'>N$ such that $sin(x')=1$ and $sin(y')=-1$. Define $x:=frac1{x'}$ and $y:=frac1{y'}$. Then $|x|,|y|<delta$ and $sin(frac1x)=1$ and $sin(frac1y)=-1$. However, we then find by the triangle inequality $2=|(-1-L)-(1-L)|leq|sin(frac1y)-L|+|sin(frac1x)-L|<2varepsilon=1$. A contradiction.






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                                      I will use the property that for all $Ninmathbb{R}$ there exists $x,y>N$ such that $sin(x)=1$ and $sin(y)=-1$. If you also want a proof of this, just tell me.



                                      Assume for the contrary that $lim_{xto0}sin(frac1x)$ exists, so it equals some $Linmathbb{R}$. Then, by definition of the limit, for $varepsilon:=frac12>0$ we get some $delta>0$ such that for all $x$ with $|x|<delta$ we have $|sin(frac1x)-L|<varepsilon=frac12$. Now use the beforementioned property that for $N:=frac1{delta}$ there exist $x',y'>N$ such that $sin(x')=1$ and $sin(y')=-1$. Define $x:=frac1{x'}$ and $y:=frac1{y'}$. Then $|x|,|y|<delta$ and $sin(frac1x)=1$ and $sin(frac1y)=-1$. However, we then find by the triangle inequality $2=|(-1-L)-(1-L)|leq|sin(frac1y)-L|+|sin(frac1x)-L|<2varepsilon=1$. A contradiction.






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                                      I will use the property that for all $Ninmathbb{R}$ there exists $x,y>N$ such that $sin(x)=1$ and $sin(y)=-1$. If you also want a proof of this, just tell me.



                                      Assume for the contrary that $lim_{xto0}sin(frac1x)$ exists, so it equals some $Linmathbb{R}$. Then, by definition of the limit, for $varepsilon:=frac12>0$ we get some $delta>0$ such that for all $x$ with $|x|<delta$ we have $|sin(frac1x)-L|<varepsilon=frac12$. Now use the beforementioned property that for $N:=frac1{delta}$ there exist $x',y'>N$ such that $sin(x')=1$ and $sin(y')=-1$. Define $x:=frac1{x'}$ and $y:=frac1{y'}$. Then $|x|,|y|<delta$ and $sin(frac1x)=1$ and $sin(frac1y)=-1$. However, we then find by the triangle inequality $2=|(-1-L)-(1-L)|leq|sin(frac1y)-L|+|sin(frac1x)-L|<2varepsilon=1$. A contradiction.







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                                          Let’s look at half the limit: approaching from the right, say. Note that $1/xtoinfty$ as $xto 0^+$, so we may rewrite the limit as



                                          $$lim_{xto 0^+} sin(1/x) = lim_{xtoinfty} sin(x).$$



                                          Can you see why $sin(x)$ doesn’t have a limit in this case?






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                                          Let’s look at half the limit: approaching from the right, say. Note that $1/xtoinfty$ as $xto 0^+$, so we may rewrite the limit as



                                          $$lim_{xto 0^+} sin(1/x) = lim_{xtoinfty} sin(x).$$



                                          Can you see why $sin(x)$ doesn’t have a limit in this case?






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                                          $begingroup$

                                          Let’s look at half the limit: approaching from the right, say. Note that $1/xtoinfty$ as $xto 0^+$, so we may rewrite the limit as



                                          $$lim_{xto 0^+} sin(1/x) = lim_{xtoinfty} sin(x).$$



                                          Can you see why $sin(x)$ doesn’t have a limit in this case?






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                                          Let’s look at half the limit: approaching from the right, say. Note that $1/xtoinfty$ as $xto 0^+$, so we may rewrite the limit as



                                          $$lim_{xto 0^+} sin(1/x) = lim_{xtoinfty} sin(x).$$



                                          Can you see why $sin(x)$ doesn’t have a limit in this case?







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                                          $begingroup$
                                          Sorry, am I wrong?
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                                          – Santana Afton
                                          Dec 14 '18 at 16:33




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