Never-ending string kebab for a dystopian future
For a Matrix-type future I want to feed people via solid food. This is to keep all their internal organs working properly.
The idea is to feed them an endless kebab that is held together along its length with a string. They aren't aware of this as they are living in a fantasy simulated world.
There is no need to chew the kebab as it is digestible as is.
Waste is expelled in the normal way and happens autonomously although it may be arranged to coincide with bowel movements in the simulated world.
The string supporting the kebab is continuously pulled at a slow rate through the digestive system to allow digestion to take place.
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Will the string that is threaded through the gut from mouth to anus actually be practicable or will it interfere with anything along the way? Are there any other drawbacks? Is there an easy way to balance the feed-through speed with the amount of nutrition per unit length of string?
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The string is on a never-ending loop so it is cleaned in disinfectant before it comes around again to the mouth once more coated in kebabulite.
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For a Matrix-type future I want to feed people via solid food. This is to keep all their internal organs working properly.
The idea is to feed them an endless kebab that is held together along its length with a string. They aren't aware of this as they are living in a fantasy simulated world.
There is no need to chew the kebab as it is digestible as is.
Waste is expelled in the normal way and happens autonomously although it may be arranged to coincide with bowel movements in the simulated world.
The string supporting the kebab is continuously pulled at a slow rate through the digestive system to allow digestion to take place.
Question
Will the string that is threaded through the gut from mouth to anus actually be practicable or will it interfere with anything along the way? Are there any other drawbacks? Is there an easy way to balance the feed-through speed with the amount of nutrition per unit length of string?
Note
The string is on a never-ending loop so it is cleaned in disinfectant before it comes around again to the mouth once more coated in kebabulite.
reality-check biology dystopia
add a comment |
For a Matrix-type future I want to feed people via solid food. This is to keep all their internal organs working properly.
The idea is to feed them an endless kebab that is held together along its length with a string. They aren't aware of this as they are living in a fantasy simulated world.
There is no need to chew the kebab as it is digestible as is.
Waste is expelled in the normal way and happens autonomously although it may be arranged to coincide with bowel movements in the simulated world.
The string supporting the kebab is continuously pulled at a slow rate through the digestive system to allow digestion to take place.
Question
Will the string that is threaded through the gut from mouth to anus actually be practicable or will it interfere with anything along the way? Are there any other drawbacks? Is there an easy way to balance the feed-through speed with the amount of nutrition per unit length of string?
Note
The string is on a never-ending loop so it is cleaned in disinfectant before it comes around again to the mouth once more coated in kebabulite.
reality-check biology dystopia
For a Matrix-type future I want to feed people via solid food. This is to keep all their internal organs working properly.
The idea is to feed them an endless kebab that is held together along its length with a string. They aren't aware of this as they are living in a fantasy simulated world.
There is no need to chew the kebab as it is digestible as is.
Waste is expelled in the normal way and happens autonomously although it may be arranged to coincide with bowel movements in the simulated world.
The string supporting the kebab is continuously pulled at a slow rate through the digestive system to allow digestion to take place.
Question
Will the string that is threaded through the gut from mouth to anus actually be practicable or will it interfere with anything along the way? Are there any other drawbacks? Is there an easy way to balance the feed-through speed with the amount of nutrition per unit length of string?
Note
The string is on a never-ending loop so it is cleaned in disinfectant before it comes around again to the mouth once more coated in kebabulite.
reality-check biology dystopia
reality-check biology dystopia
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The bowels are not straight: they have several U turns in their abdominal deployment.
If you pull a wire it will tend to straighten up. If the wire is in the bowels, it means some unpleasant stress and almost sure intestinal cuts, unless you place some fixed pulleys.
Bowel movements take care of moving the food from start to end. Just feed the slurry into the esophagus, the rest will be taken care by nature.
If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
3
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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There are all kinds of ugly here.
If your string isn't digestable (or digestable in the time allotted for pulling the kebab through the body), it will decay, leading to bacteria and infection and a whole lot of ugly.
One assumes the body wants to breathe, but a kebab being pulled through the body pretty much guarantees that breathing either won't occur or that fluid will enter the lungs. Fluid in the lungs is a whole lot of ugly. Not breathing is a whole lot more ugly.
Metabolism is neither uniform nor linear. Part of the process of digestion is to store energy, not simply convert it. In other words, the body will expect the kebab to periodically stop moving. If it stops moving while food is still in the esophagus, the gag reflex will be invoked and the body will choke. As you can imagine, choking is a whole lot of ugly.
And heaven help you if your matrix personality decided to start a religious fast. Oh, yeah. A whole lota ugly.
I'm going to ignore the fact that the string is passing through orifaces that are expected to open and close at specific times, allowing the potential for material to pass when and where it shouldn't. I'm doing so because I can believe that despite being uncomfortable (and probably leading itself to gagging, see above), the body's fluids would likely keep the orifices sealed even with the string passing through. But, it would look ugly, so there's a whole lotta ugly here, too.
Finally, I upvoted L.Dutch's answer (and you should, too) because the nature of a string is to be pulled straight and there's enough squishy in the body that it would try really hard to do so. Add to that the fact that a moving string (or wire or anything else) has the inconvenient nature of cutting through things and the amount of ugly just went off the chart.
I don't see the use of an endless kebab as practical. It would be more believable to have the body enter a semi-concious state associated with the act of eating in the Matrix and have it ingest the proverbial protein cubes while the mind believes it's enjoying a juicy steak.
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Why don’t you just run a tube down to the stomach? Waste is processed automatically by the body as usual, and the tubes can be removed, disinfected, and reinserted during a normal daily maintenance procedure that needs to be done anyway to keep the body from getting sores, etc.
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The bowels are not straight: they have several U turns in their abdominal deployment.
If you pull a wire it will tend to straighten up. If the wire is in the bowels, it means some unpleasant stress and almost sure intestinal cuts, unless you place some fixed pulleys.
Bowel movements take care of moving the food from start to end. Just feed the slurry into the esophagus, the rest will be taken care by nature.
If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
3
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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The bowels are not straight: they have several U turns in their abdominal deployment.
If you pull a wire it will tend to straighten up. If the wire is in the bowels, it means some unpleasant stress and almost sure intestinal cuts, unless you place some fixed pulleys.
Bowel movements take care of moving the food from start to end. Just feed the slurry into the esophagus, the rest will be taken care by nature.
If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
3
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
add a comment |
The bowels are not straight: they have several U turns in their abdominal deployment.
If you pull a wire it will tend to straighten up. If the wire is in the bowels, it means some unpleasant stress and almost sure intestinal cuts, unless you place some fixed pulleys.
Bowel movements take care of moving the food from start to end. Just feed the slurry into the esophagus, the rest will be taken care by nature.
The bowels are not straight: they have several U turns in their abdominal deployment.
If you pull a wire it will tend to straighten up. If the wire is in the bowels, it means some unpleasant stress and almost sure intestinal cuts, unless you place some fixed pulleys.
Bowel movements take care of moving the food from start to end. Just feed the slurry into the esophagus, the rest will be taken care by nature.
answered 4 hours ago
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If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
3
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
add a comment |
If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
3
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
If I just pipe the stuff in there's a real danger of choking. I can't afford expensive monitoring equipment. However if the movement is continuous by keeping the string moving then, even if it doesn't get fully digested, at least there won't be a build-up.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
3
3
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
Look up "ng tube" or "og tube". Basically, shove a feeding tube through the victim's nose and down into their stomach. Problem solved.
– elemtilas
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@elemtilas - Okay but I'm still worried about it being fed in at the wrong speed. I want the mechanism to be left unattended so too little and the subject will starve, too much and the food will presumably regurgitate and choke them.
– chasly from UK
3 hours ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@chasly and the kebab mechanism is going to regulate the intake... how, exactly, other than preventing the subject from throwing up by obstructing the passage?
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
@John Dvorak - well tbh I'm beginning to think my idea won't work, but the idea was it would be set a little too fast to be digested. That way the subject wouldn't starve and if some kebab exited undigested it could be discarded.
– chasly from UK
1 hour ago
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There are all kinds of ugly here.
If your string isn't digestable (or digestable in the time allotted for pulling the kebab through the body), it will decay, leading to bacteria and infection and a whole lot of ugly.
One assumes the body wants to breathe, but a kebab being pulled through the body pretty much guarantees that breathing either won't occur or that fluid will enter the lungs. Fluid in the lungs is a whole lot of ugly. Not breathing is a whole lot more ugly.
Metabolism is neither uniform nor linear. Part of the process of digestion is to store energy, not simply convert it. In other words, the body will expect the kebab to periodically stop moving. If it stops moving while food is still in the esophagus, the gag reflex will be invoked and the body will choke. As you can imagine, choking is a whole lot of ugly.
And heaven help you if your matrix personality decided to start a religious fast. Oh, yeah. A whole lota ugly.
I'm going to ignore the fact that the string is passing through orifaces that are expected to open and close at specific times, allowing the potential for material to pass when and where it shouldn't. I'm doing so because I can believe that despite being uncomfortable (and probably leading itself to gagging, see above), the body's fluids would likely keep the orifices sealed even with the string passing through. But, it would look ugly, so there's a whole lotta ugly here, too.
Finally, I upvoted L.Dutch's answer (and you should, too) because the nature of a string is to be pulled straight and there's enough squishy in the body that it would try really hard to do so. Add to that the fact that a moving string (or wire or anything else) has the inconvenient nature of cutting through things and the amount of ugly just went off the chart.
I don't see the use of an endless kebab as practical. It would be more believable to have the body enter a semi-concious state associated with the act of eating in the Matrix and have it ingest the proverbial protein cubes while the mind believes it's enjoying a juicy steak.
add a comment |
There are all kinds of ugly here.
If your string isn't digestable (or digestable in the time allotted for pulling the kebab through the body), it will decay, leading to bacteria and infection and a whole lot of ugly.
One assumes the body wants to breathe, but a kebab being pulled through the body pretty much guarantees that breathing either won't occur or that fluid will enter the lungs. Fluid in the lungs is a whole lot of ugly. Not breathing is a whole lot more ugly.
Metabolism is neither uniform nor linear. Part of the process of digestion is to store energy, not simply convert it. In other words, the body will expect the kebab to periodically stop moving. If it stops moving while food is still in the esophagus, the gag reflex will be invoked and the body will choke. As you can imagine, choking is a whole lot of ugly.
And heaven help you if your matrix personality decided to start a religious fast. Oh, yeah. A whole lota ugly.
I'm going to ignore the fact that the string is passing through orifaces that are expected to open and close at specific times, allowing the potential for material to pass when and where it shouldn't. I'm doing so because I can believe that despite being uncomfortable (and probably leading itself to gagging, see above), the body's fluids would likely keep the orifices sealed even with the string passing through. But, it would look ugly, so there's a whole lotta ugly here, too.
Finally, I upvoted L.Dutch's answer (and you should, too) because the nature of a string is to be pulled straight and there's enough squishy in the body that it would try really hard to do so. Add to that the fact that a moving string (or wire or anything else) has the inconvenient nature of cutting through things and the amount of ugly just went off the chart.
I don't see the use of an endless kebab as practical. It would be more believable to have the body enter a semi-concious state associated with the act of eating in the Matrix and have it ingest the proverbial protein cubes while the mind believes it's enjoying a juicy steak.
add a comment |
There are all kinds of ugly here.
If your string isn't digestable (or digestable in the time allotted for pulling the kebab through the body), it will decay, leading to bacteria and infection and a whole lot of ugly.
One assumes the body wants to breathe, but a kebab being pulled through the body pretty much guarantees that breathing either won't occur or that fluid will enter the lungs. Fluid in the lungs is a whole lot of ugly. Not breathing is a whole lot more ugly.
Metabolism is neither uniform nor linear. Part of the process of digestion is to store energy, not simply convert it. In other words, the body will expect the kebab to periodically stop moving. If it stops moving while food is still in the esophagus, the gag reflex will be invoked and the body will choke. As you can imagine, choking is a whole lot of ugly.
And heaven help you if your matrix personality decided to start a religious fast. Oh, yeah. A whole lota ugly.
I'm going to ignore the fact that the string is passing through orifaces that are expected to open and close at specific times, allowing the potential for material to pass when and where it shouldn't. I'm doing so because I can believe that despite being uncomfortable (and probably leading itself to gagging, see above), the body's fluids would likely keep the orifices sealed even with the string passing through. But, it would look ugly, so there's a whole lotta ugly here, too.
Finally, I upvoted L.Dutch's answer (and you should, too) because the nature of a string is to be pulled straight and there's enough squishy in the body that it would try really hard to do so. Add to that the fact that a moving string (or wire or anything else) has the inconvenient nature of cutting through things and the amount of ugly just went off the chart.
I don't see the use of an endless kebab as practical. It would be more believable to have the body enter a semi-concious state associated with the act of eating in the Matrix and have it ingest the proverbial protein cubes while the mind believes it's enjoying a juicy steak.
There are all kinds of ugly here.
If your string isn't digestable (or digestable in the time allotted for pulling the kebab through the body), it will decay, leading to bacteria and infection and a whole lot of ugly.
One assumes the body wants to breathe, but a kebab being pulled through the body pretty much guarantees that breathing either won't occur or that fluid will enter the lungs. Fluid in the lungs is a whole lot of ugly. Not breathing is a whole lot more ugly.
Metabolism is neither uniform nor linear. Part of the process of digestion is to store energy, not simply convert it. In other words, the body will expect the kebab to periodically stop moving. If it stops moving while food is still in the esophagus, the gag reflex will be invoked and the body will choke. As you can imagine, choking is a whole lot of ugly.
And heaven help you if your matrix personality decided to start a religious fast. Oh, yeah. A whole lota ugly.
I'm going to ignore the fact that the string is passing through orifaces that are expected to open and close at specific times, allowing the potential for material to pass when and where it shouldn't. I'm doing so because I can believe that despite being uncomfortable (and probably leading itself to gagging, see above), the body's fluids would likely keep the orifices sealed even with the string passing through. But, it would look ugly, so there's a whole lotta ugly here, too.
Finally, I upvoted L.Dutch's answer (and you should, too) because the nature of a string is to be pulled straight and there's enough squishy in the body that it would try really hard to do so. Add to that the fact that a moving string (or wire or anything else) has the inconvenient nature of cutting through things and the amount of ugly just went off the chart.
I don't see the use of an endless kebab as practical. It would be more believable to have the body enter a semi-concious state associated with the act of eating in the Matrix and have it ingest the proverbial protein cubes while the mind believes it's enjoying a juicy steak.
answered 3 hours ago
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Why don’t you just run a tube down to the stomach? Waste is processed automatically by the body as usual, and the tubes can be removed, disinfected, and reinserted during a normal daily maintenance procedure that needs to be done anyway to keep the body from getting sores, etc.
add a comment |
Why don’t you just run a tube down to the stomach? Waste is processed automatically by the body as usual, and the tubes can be removed, disinfected, and reinserted during a normal daily maintenance procedure that needs to be done anyway to keep the body from getting sores, etc.
add a comment |
Why don’t you just run a tube down to the stomach? Waste is processed automatically by the body as usual, and the tubes can be removed, disinfected, and reinserted during a normal daily maintenance procedure that needs to be done anyway to keep the body from getting sores, etc.
Why don’t you just run a tube down to the stomach? Waste is processed automatically by the body as usual, and the tubes can be removed, disinfected, and reinserted during a normal daily maintenance procedure that needs to be done anyway to keep the body from getting sores, etc.
answered 49 mins ago
Rodrigo A. Pérez
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