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I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.



I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.



I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.



Thanks for any help.










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  • No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account

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  • Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.

    – Sean Gallardy
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  • The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday
















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I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.



I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.



I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.



Thanks for any help.










share|improve this question

























  • No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday













  • Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday











  • The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday














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I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.



I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.



I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.



Thanks for any help.










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I have read only routing setup and working fine. I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.



I have seen a lot of topics on this and they all seem to suggest disabling the login on the primary. When I do this connections to the listener with ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly fail with Login failed for user ''. Reason: The account is disabled.



I have ensured the accounts are the same SID.



Thanks for any help.







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  • No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday













  • Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday











  • The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday



















  • No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday













  • Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday











  • The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday

















No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account

– Dustin Laine
yesterday







No, I checked that. I can connect to the secondary directly with the account

– Dustin Laine
yesterday















Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.

– Sean Gallardy
yesterday





Can you please be more specific on this point, "However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary." as it will change my answer.

– Sean Gallardy
yesterday













The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

– Dustin Laine
yesterday





The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.

– Dustin Laine
yesterday










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I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.




More specifically:




The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.




In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.



You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.






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  • I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday











  • @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday











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I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.




More specifically:




The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.




In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.



You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.






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  • I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday











  • @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday
















5















I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.




More specifically:




The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.




In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.



You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.






share|improve this answer
























  • I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday











  • @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday














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I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.




More specifically:




The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.




In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.



You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.






share|improve this answer














I have a SQL login that accesses the readable secondary via the listener using ApplicationIntent=ReadOnly. However I want to prevent the user from accessing the primary.




More specifically:




The user should not be able to connect to the primary replica, only secondary.




In this case, it's not possible to do what you're wanting. You can't use read only routing with this as the first step in read only routing is to connect to the primary to check if the requirements to meet read only routing are correctly used and then get the metadata from the primary to understand where the new connection should take place.



You can, however, use something such as a network load balance appliance to dynamically update a cname or A record (AAAA if IPv6) to always point to a secondary. This would be specific to the load balancing software/hardware you choose to use. You could also write your own with a trivial amount of work.







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  • I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday











  • @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday



















  • I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

    – Dustin Laine
    yesterday











  • @DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

    – Sean Gallardy
    yesterday

















I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

– Dustin Laine
yesterday





I think you cleared this up, but please let me confirm. Reading the information I previously found there is obscurity in if a listener is used. In my scenario I can still connect to the secondary directly using the disabled login approach, but they would not benefit from the routing features of the AG. If I want to use the listener then the login needs to exist and be enabled on both. Does this sound right?

– Dustin Laine
yesterday













@DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

– Sean Gallardy
yesterday





@DustinLaine Correct (disabled login on the primary)!

– Sean Gallardy
yesterday


















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